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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.com>,
	Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>,
	Omar Sandoval <osandov@osandov.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	adobriyan@gmail.com, sfr@canb.auug.org.au,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kbuild: provide include/asm/asm-prototypes.h for ARM
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:17:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161020131702.GX1041@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161020150814.42951f61@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 03:08:14PM +1100, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> Fair point, what about leaving those as they are, and also adding
> them to asm-prototypes.h protected with GENKSYMS ifdef? It's not
> beautiful, but still better than armksyms.c before Al's patches (or
> at least no worse).

I disagree (also see below).  The armksyms way was understandable.
The new way... I've no idea yet, because I wasn't even copied on
any of the patches.  I've no idea how the exports are now handled.
I'm in a black hole with respect to that, and that's now a problem.

> > Now, it would have _ALSO_ been nice to have been at least COPIED on the
> > original set of changes that caused the need for this change.  I wasn't.
> > So I want to see the original set of changes reverted, because they're
> > clearly causing breakage.  Let's revert them and then go through the
> > proper process of maintainer review, rather than bypassing maintainers
> > and screwing up architectures in the process.  There really is no
> > excuse for this crap.
> 
> You may have a point about improvement of the process. I wasn't
> involved in the original patches, but we did cc linux-arch when the
> .S CRC issue became known.

Yes, but I'm not on linux-kernel-v2, and I've no desire to end up with
another list I've no hope of keeping up with to my mailbox - I'll just
ignore it.  99% of the messages on it at the time when vger kicked me
off the list was x86 related discussion, and not really cross-arch
issues.  As I say, it just became another linux-kernel list.

> However let's work on the assumption that they won't be reverted at this
> stage, and try to come up with something to fix it that you're happy with.

Well, there's more problems with this new KSYMS approach than just the
CRCs.  It forces a rebuild of the ksyms files every single time, which
then causes a relink of the kernel:

  CHK     include/config/kernel.release
  GEN     ./Makefile
  CHK     include/generated/uapi/linux/version.h
  CHK     include/generated/utsrelease.h
  Using /home/rmk/git/linux-rmk as source for kernel
  CHK     include/generated/timeconst.h
  CHK     include/generated/bounds.h
  CHK     include/generated/asm-offsets.h
  CALL    /home/rmk/git/linux-rmk/scripts/checksyscalls.sh - due to target missing
  CHK     include/generated/compile.h
  EXPORTS arch/arm/lib/lib-ksyms.o - due to lib-ksyms.o not in $(targets)
  LD      arch/arm/lib/built-in.o - due to: arch/arm/lib/lib-ksyms.o
  EXPORTS lib/lib-ksyms.o - due to lib-ksyms.o not in $(targets)
  LD      lib/built-in.o - due to: lib/lib-ksyms.o
  LD      vmlinux.o
  MODPOST vmlinux.o - due to vmlinux.o not in $(targets)
  GEN     .version
  CHK     include/generated/compile.h
  UPD     include/generated/compile.h
  CC      init/version.o - due to: include/generated/compile.h
  LD      init/built-in.o - due to: init/version.o
  KSYM    .tmp_kallsyms1.o
  KSYM    .tmp_kallsyms2.o
  LD      vmlinux
  SORTEX  vmlinux
  SYSMAP  System.map
  OBJCOPY arch/arm/boot/Image - due to: vmlinux
  Building modules, stage 2.
  Kernel: arch/arm/boot/Image is ready
  LZO     arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy_data - due to: arch/arm/boot/compressed/../Image
  MODPOST 689 modules - due to target is PHONY
  AS      arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o - due to: arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy_data
  LD      arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux - due to: arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o
  OBJCOPY arch/arm/boot/zImage - due to: arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux
  Kernel: arch/arm/boot/zImage is ready

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-20 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-17  6:51 [GIT PULL] kbuild changes for v4.9-rc1 Adam Borowski
2016-10-17  6:59 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-10-17 10:01   ` Adam Borowski
2016-10-17 10:01     ` Adam Borowski
2016-10-17 10:01     ` Adam Borowski
2016-10-17 11:12     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-10-17 11:17       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-10-17 11:32         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-10-17 12:22     ` Mathieu OTHACEHE
2016-10-18  0:16       ` Adam Borowski
2016-10-18  1:34         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-10-19 14:38           ` Michal Marek
2016-10-20  3:52             ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-10-27  8:10               ` Kalle Valo
2016-10-27 11:15                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-10-27 13:14                   ` Kalle Valo
2016-10-27 13:25                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-10-30 10:51                 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2016-11-01 15:48           ` Michal Marek
2016-11-02 12:11             ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-02 12:14               ` [PATCH] kbuild: provide include/asm/asm-prototypes.h for x86 Adam Borowski
2016-12-16 19:55     ` [GIT PULL] kbuild changes for v4.9-rc1 Jiri Slaby
2016-12-16 19:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-17  8:57         ` Jiri Slaby
2016-12-17  9:33           ` Adam Borowski
2016-12-17 23:59           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-18 10:49             ` Jiri Slaby
2016-12-18 11:03               ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-18 13:27                 ` Nikolay Borisov
2016-12-18 14:45                   ` Jiri Slaby
2016-12-18 14:54                     ` Nikolay Borisov
2016-12-18 15:08                       ` Jiri Slaby
2016-10-17 12:26   ` [PATCH] kbuild: provide include/asm/asm-prototypes.h for ARM Arnd Bergmann
2016-10-19 14:52     ` Michal Marek
2016-10-19 15:02       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-10-19 15:32         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-10-20  4:08           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-10-20 13:17             ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2016-10-20 14:20               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-10-20 14:33                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-10-20 14:51                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-10-22 19:51                   ` Michal Marek
2016-10-24 15:04             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-10-24 15:05               ` [PATCH 1/2] " Arnd Bergmann
2016-10-25  8:32                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-20 13:21                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-20 18:32                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-20 19:12                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-21  6:10                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-21 18:46                 ` Bug#844530: [1/2] " Uwe Kleine-König
2016-11-21 18:46                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2016-11-21 19:13                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-22  1:01                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-10-24 15:06               ` [PATCH 2/2, variant A] ARM: add hidden mmioset/mmiocpy prototypes Arnd Bergmann
2016-10-24 15:06               ` [PATCH 2/2, variant B] ARM: move mmiocpy/mmioset exports to io.c Arnd Bergmann
2016-10-20  7:37           ` [PATCH] kbuild: provide include/asm/asm-prototypes.h for ARM Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-10-20  8:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-10-20  8:23               ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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