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From: Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 05/23] toolchain-external-blackfin-uclinux: new package
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 19:14:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161101181455.GA30593@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <464e77de-831e-beeb-4d83-be59aa659f88@gmail.com>

Romain, All,

On 2016-11-01 19:06 +0100, Romain Naour spake thusly:
> Le 01/11/2016 ? 14:19, Thomas Petazzoni a ?crit :
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 19:17:00 +0100, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> > 
> >>> The virtual package should be named "toolchain-external", which clashes
> >>> with the existing "toolchain-external" package that you remove in step
> >>> (5). So you can't do your step (2) before doing your step (5), unless
> >>> of course you name the packages differently.  
> >>
> >> A virtual package is but a generic package, so nothing prevents it from
> >> having its own _CMDS macros; it can download, configure and build stuff
> >> of its own.
> >>
> >> Alternatively, you can have the toolchain-external package depend on
> >> each of the new toochain-external-foo when it is added, as a kind of
> >> manually-handled virtual package, before eventually converting it to a
> >> real virtual package once everything as been split out to individual
> >> providers.
> > 
> > So when the series if half applied, you have:
> > 
> >  - The toolchain-external package infrastructure, which is used by some
> >    of the toolchains
> > 
> >  - The toolchain-external package, which depending on the toolchain,
> >    either:
> > 
> >    - Implements itself the logic (for toolchains not yet converted)
> > 
> >    - Depends on another package, toolchain-external-foo, that
> >      uses the toolchain-external package infrastructure ?
> > 
> > So at some point, if you have two times the code to handle the external
> > toolchain logic. But I agree that this can work.
> > 
> > Romain, what do you think?
> 
> I think we should decide if we really want this series before -rc1 or delay it
> for -next.
> If we want this series for -rc1, I might not have finished the rework on time.
> If not, I can take the time to rework with Yann's proposal.

As we discussed on IRC just a few minutes ago, I am not in favour of you
rewriting this series, whether it is material for -rc1 or -next.

As for the ordering of the toolchains, I think we should have them
ordered by alpahbetiacal order.

After all, we never really advertised that defconfigs would be
"reansposable" as-is during an upgrade. The real process for an upgrade
should be:

    make foo_defconfig
    git pull
    make oldconfig
    (check)
    make savedefconfig

Which is the only way we can ensure correctness in a configuration file,
because that will also cover the legacy stuff. Not doing so would risk
keeping legacy symbols in a defconfig, so the process above is what one
should do when upgrading Buildroot.

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-01 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-29 12:08 [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 00/23] Splitting the toolchain-external package Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 01/23] toolchain-external: TOOLCHAIN_EXTERNAL_CREATE_*_LIB_SYMLINK: use arguments instead of global variables Romain Naour
2016-10-30 16:20   ` Yann E. MORIN
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 02/23] toolchain-external: TOOLCHAIN_EXTERNAL_INSTALL_*_LIBS: " Romain Naour
2016-10-30 16:27   ` Yann E. MORIN
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 03/23] toolchain-external: TOOLCHAIN_EXTERNAL_INSTALL_WRAPPER: " Romain Naour
2016-10-30 16:29   ` Yann E. MORIN
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 04/23] toolchain-external: TOOLCHAIN_EXTERNAL_INSTALL_TARGET_GDBSERVER: " Romain Naour
2016-10-30 16:31   ` Yann E. MORIN
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 05/23] toolchain-external-blackfin-uclinux: new package Romain Naour
2016-10-30 16:47   ` Yann E. MORIN
2016-10-30 17:37     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-10-30 18:17       ` Yann E. MORIN
2016-11-01 13:19         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-11-01 18:06           ` Romain Naour
2016-11-01 18:14             ` Yann E. MORIN [this message]
2016-11-02  9:48               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-10-30 16:50   ` Yann E. MORIN
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 06/23] toolchain-external-arago-armv7a: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 07/23] toolchain-external-arago-armv5te: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 08/23] toolchain-external-custom: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 09/23] toolchain-external-linaro-aarch64: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 10/23] toolchain-external-linaro-arm: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 11/23] toolchain-external-linaro-armeb: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 12/23] toolchain-external-musl-cross: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 13/23] toolchain-external-codesourcery-aarch64: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 14/23] toolchain-external-codesourcery-arm: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 15/23] toolchain-external-codesourcery-mips: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 16/23] toolchain-external-codesourcery-niosII: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 17/23] toolchain-external-codesourcery-sh: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 18/23] toolchain-external-codesourcery-x86: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 19/23] toolchain-external-codesourcery-amd64: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 20/23] toolchain-external-synopsys-arc: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 21/23] toolchain-external-codescape-img-mips: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 22/23] toolchain-external-codescape-mti-mips: " Romain Naour
2016-10-29 12:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 23/23] toolchain-external: introduce and use external toolchain infra Romain Naour
2016-10-30 18:38   ` Romain Naour
2016-11-01 13:23     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-11-01 17:42       ` Romain Naour
2016-11-02  9:55         ` Thomas Petazzoni

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