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From: Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "security@kernel.org" <security@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Nick Kralevich <nnk@google.com>,
	Janis Danisevskis <jdanis@google.com>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] mm: add LSM hook for writes to readonly memory
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 03:25:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161103022540.GI8196@pc.thejh.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160928233256.GB2040@pc.thejh.net>

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On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 01:32:56AM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 04:22:53PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net> wrote:
> > > -struct mm_struct *proc_mem_open(struct inode *inode, unsigned int mode)
> > > +struct mm_struct *proc_mem_open(struct inode *inode,
> > > +                               const struct cred **object_cred,
> > > +                               unsigned int mode)
> > >  {
> > 
> > Why are you passing object_cred all over the place like this?  You
> > have an inode, and an inode implies a task.
> 
> But the task's mm and objective credentials can change, and only mm_access()
> holds the cred_guard_mutex during the mm lookup. Although, if the objective
> credentials change because of a setuid execution, being able to poke in the
> old mm would be pretty harmless...

Actually, no. If you can poke in the pre-execve memory, but are checked
against the (possibly more permissive) objective creds of the post-execve
process, you can affect another process that shares the pre-execve memory
(the case where task B, which calls execve(), was clone()d from task A
with CLONE_VM). So I'm keeping this code the way I wrote it.


> > For that matter, would it possibly make sense to use MEMCG's mm->owner
> > and get rid of object_cred entirely?
> 
> I guess it might.

Actually, I'd prefer not to do that - I think it would be unnecessarily
unintuitive to check against the objective creds of task A when accessing
task B if task B was clone()d from A with clone(CLONE_VM).

> > I can see this causing issues in
> > strange threading cases, e.g. accessing your own /proc/$$/mem vs
> > another thread in your process's.
> 
> Can you elaborate on that?


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-03  2:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-28 22:54 [PATCH v2 0/3] fix SELinux W^X bypass via ptrace Jann Horn
2016-09-28 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] fs/exec: don't force writing memory access Jann Horn
2016-09-28 22:54   ` Jann Horn
2016-09-29 16:09   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-29 16:09     ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-28 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mm: add LSM hook for writes to readonly memory Jann Horn
2016-09-28 22:54   ` Jann Horn
2016-09-28 23:22   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-28 23:22     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-28 23:32     ` Jann Horn
2016-09-28 23:44       ` Jann Horn
2016-11-03  2:25       ` Jann Horn [this message]
2016-09-29  6:25   ` Ingo Molnar
2016-09-29  6:25     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-09-28 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] selinux: require EXECMEM for forced ptrace poke Jann Horn
2016-09-29  6:19   ` Ingo Molnar
2016-09-29  6:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-09-29 16:38   ` Stephen Smalley
2016-09-29 16:38     ` Stephen Smalley

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