From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de>,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
dvteam@molgen.mpg.de
Subject: Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node`
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 06:29:01 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161121142901.GV3612@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161121141818.GD18112@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 03:18:19PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 21-11-16 06:01:22, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 02:41:31PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
> > > To the patch. I cannot say I would like it. cond_resched_rcu_qs sounds
> > > way too lowlevel for this usage. If anything cond_resched somewhere inside
> > > mem_cgroup_iter would be more appropriate to me.
> >
> > Like this?
> >
> > Thanx, Paul
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > index ae052b5e3315..81cb30d5b2fc 100644
> > --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> > +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > @@ -867,6 +867,7 @@ struct mem_cgroup *mem_cgroup_iter(struct mem_cgroup *root,
> > out:
> > if (prev && prev != root)
> > css_put(&prev->css);
> > + cond_resched_rcu_qs();
>
> I still do not understand why should we play with _rcu_qs at all and a
> regular cond_resched is not sufficient. Anyway I would have to double
> check whether we can do cond_resched in the iterator. I do not remember
> having users which are atomic but I might be easily wrong here. Before
> we touch this code, though, I would really like to understand what is
> actually going on here because as I've already pointed out we should
> have some resched points in the reclaim path.
If there is a tight loop in the kernel, cond_resched() will ensure that
other tasks get a chance to run, but if there are no such tasks, it does
nothing to give RCU the quiescent state that it needs from time to time.
So if there is a possibility of a long-running in-kernel loop without
preemption by some other task, cond_resched_rcu_qs() is required.
I welcome your deeper investigation -- I am very much treating symptoms
here, which might or might not have any relationship to fixing underlying
problems.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-21 14:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <24c226a5-1a4a-173e-8b4e-5107a2baac04@molgen.mpg.de>
2016-11-08 12:22 ` INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Paul Menzel
2016-11-08 17:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-08 17:38 ` Paul Menzel
2016-11-08 18:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-16 17:01 ` Paul Menzel
2016-11-16 17:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-21 13:41 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-21 14:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-21 14:18 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-21 14:29 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-11-21 15:35 ` Donald Buczek
2016-11-24 10:15 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-24 18:50 ` Donald Buczek
2016-11-27 9:37 ` Paul Menzel
2016-11-27 5:32 ` Christopher S. Aker
2016-11-27 9:19 ` Donald Buczek
2016-11-28 11:04 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-28 12:26 ` Paul Menzel
2016-11-28 12:26 ` Paul Menzel
2016-11-30 10:28 ` Donald Buczek
2016-11-30 10:28 ` Donald Buczek
2016-11-30 11:09 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-30 11:09 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-30 11:43 ` Donald Buczek
2016-11-30 11:43 ` Donald Buczek
2016-12-02 9:14 ` Donald Buczek
2016-12-02 9:14 ` Donald Buczek
2016-12-06 8:32 ` Donald Buczek
2016-12-06 8:32 ` Donald Buczek
2016-11-30 11:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 11:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 11:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 11:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 12:31 ` Paul Menzel
2016-11-30 12:31 ` Paul Menzel
2016-11-30 14:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 14:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 13:19 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-30 13:19 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-30 14:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 14:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 16:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-30 16:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-30 17:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 17:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 17:05 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-30 17:05 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-30 17:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 17:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 17:34 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-30 17:34 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-30 17:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-30 17:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-30 19:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 19:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-01 5:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-01 5:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-01 12:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-01 12:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-01 16:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-01 16:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-01 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-01 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-01 18:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-01 18:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-01 18:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-01 18:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-01 18:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-01 18:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] <d6981bac-8e97-b482-98c0-40949db03ca3@kernelpanic.ru>
[not found] ` <20161124133019.GE3612@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <de88a72a-f861-b51f-9fb3-4265378702f1@kernelpanic.ru>
[not found] ` <20161125212000.GI31360@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <20161128095825.GI14788@dhcp22.suse.cz>
[not found] ` <20161128105425.GY31360@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <3a4242cb-0198-0a3b-97ae-536fb5ff83ec@kernelpanic.ru>
[not found] ` <20161128143435.GC3924@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2016-11-28 14:40 ` Boris Zhmurov
2016-11-28 15:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-28 19:16 ` Boris Zhmurov
2016-11-29 18:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 17:41 ` Boris Zhmurov
2016-11-30 17:48 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-30 18:12 ` Boris Zhmurov
2016-11-30 18:25 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-30 18:26 ` Boris Zhmurov
2016-12-01 18:10 ` Boris Zhmurov
2016-12-01 19:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-01 19:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-02 9:37 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-02 9:37 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-02 13:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-02 13:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-02 16:39 ` Boris Zhmurov
2016-12-02 16:39 ` Boris Zhmurov
2016-12-02 16:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-02 16:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-02 17:02 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-02 17:02 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-02 17:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-02 17:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-30 19:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
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