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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: "Vishwanathapura,
	Niranjana"
	<niranjana.vishwanathapura-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Dennis Dalessandro
	<dennis.dalessandro-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 02/10] IB/hfi-vnic: Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) Bus driver
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:31:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161121233118.GA31132@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161121232629.GA67988-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 03:26:29PM -0800, Vishwanathapura, Niranjana wrote:
 
> I did not see any example IB mad agent outside drivers/inifiniband
> folder.

You can be the first.

> I did see some netdev drivers outside the net/ folder (like ipoib and
> drivers/infiniband/hw/nes/).

It is very rare, and arguably ipoib was a mistake..

> The hfi_vnic Ethernet driver is entirely a soft driver without any HW access.
> Also, any interface changes between hfi_vnic and the HFI driver makes it
> difficult to manage if they are under two subsystems/maintainers.

We manage this already for all the rocee drivers that are based on
netdev drivers, you will be fine.

> We have 'rdmavt' and 'soft-roce' drivers under drivers/infiniband/sw/ folder
> which are soft drivers similar to hfi_vnic. So we decided to put
> 'hif_vnic'

As I said those are HCA drivers & support, not just random 'software'.

> >>>>+	ida_init(&hfi_vnic_ctrl_ida);
> >>>>+	idr_init(&hfi_vnic_idr);
> >>>>+
> >>>>+	rc = bus_register(&hfi_vnic_bus);
> >>>
> >>>Why on earth do we need this? Didn't I give you enough grief for the
> >>>psm stuff and now you want to create an entire subystem hidden away!?
> >>>
> >>>Use some netlink scheme to control your vnic like the rest of the net
> >>>stack..
> >>>
> >>
> >>The hfi_vnic_bus is only abstracting the HW independent functionality (like
> >>Ethernet interface, encapsulation, IB MAD interface etc) with the HW
> >>dependent functionality (sending/receiving packets on the wire).
> >>Thus providing a cleaner interface between HW independent hfi_vnic Ethernet
> >>and Control drivers and the HW dependent HFI1 driver.
> >
> >That doesn't explain anything, sound like you don't need it so get rid
> >of it.

> >>There is no other User interface here other than the standard Ethernet
> >>interface through network stack.
> >
> >Good, then this isn't needed, because it doesn't provide a user interface.
> >
> 
> Can you explain what exactly you are asking to get rid of here and why?

Get rid of the bus_register/etc as drivers do not get to call this.

Jason
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-21 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-18 22:42 [RFC 00/10] HFI Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42 ` [RFC 05/10] IB/hfi-vnic: VNIC statistics support Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42 ` [RFC 06/10] IB/hfi-vnic: VNIC MAC table support Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42 ` [RFC 09/10] IB/hfi1: Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) support Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found] ` <1479508938-63799-1-git-send-email-niranjana.vishwanathapura-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 01/10] IB/hfi-vnic: Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) documentation Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 02/10] IB/hfi-vnic: Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) Bus driver Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-19 19:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-21 21:30       ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-21 21:39         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-21 23:26           ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found]             ` <20161121232629.GA67988-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-21 23:31               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <20161121233118.GA31132-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-22  1:53                   ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-22 17:04                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-22 19:49                       ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found]                         ` <20161122194918.GA69241-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-22 23:04                           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-11-23  0:53                             ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-23  0:06                         ` Andrew Lunn
     [not found]                       ` <20161122170407.GE3956-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-23  0:05                         ` ira.weiny
2016-11-23  0:49                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20161123004932.GA13598-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-24  0:08                               ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found]                                 ` <20161124000825.GA73280-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-24 16:15                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20161124161545.GA20818-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25  2:13                                       ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found]                                         ` <20161125021350.GA74946-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25 19:05                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20161125190509.GB16504-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29  6:31                                               ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found]                                                 ` <20161129063106.GB84990-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 16:19                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                     ` <20161129161950.GB742-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 16:44                                                       ` Hefty, Sean
2016-11-29 16:50                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                           ` <20161129165009.GA3167-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-01  7:39                                                             ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-29  6:29                                       ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found]                                         ` <20161129062938.GA84990-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 16:21                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20161129162113.GC742-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-01  7:41                                               ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 03/10] IB/hfi-vnic: Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) netdev driver Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 04/10] IB/hfi-vnic: VNIC Ethernet Management (EM) structure definitions Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 07/10] IB/hfi-vnic: VNIC Ethernet Management Agent (VEMA) interface Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 08/10] IB/hfi-vnic: VNIC Ethernet Management Agent (VEMA) driver Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 10/10] IB/hfi1: VNIC SDMA support Vishwanathapura, Niranjana

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