From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: Frank Rowand <frowand.list-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Pantelis Antoniou
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 5/7] overlay: Documentation for the overlay sugar syntax
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:39:00 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161130003900.GC19891@umbus> (raw)
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 08:45:16AM -0800, Frank Rowand wrote:
> On 11/28/16 21:10, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 08:36:07PM -0800, Frank Rowand wrote:
> >> On 11/28/16 19:10, David Gibson wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 06:05:39PM +0200, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
> >>>> There exists a syntactic sugar version of overlays which
> >>>> make them simpler to write for the trivial case of a single target.
> >>
> >> It also works for multiple targets. (See the example I provided in
> >> my comment to v10.)
> >>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> Document it in the device tree object internals.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Pantelis Antoniou <pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
> >>>
> >>> I'm with Frank that I think this, rather than being regarded mere
> >>> syntactic sugar, should be considered the primary way of describing
> >>> overlays.
> >>>
> >>> Obviously we need to support the fully written out version as well.
> >>
> >> If we need to support the fully written out version, can we make that
> >> a discouraged, non-preferred method? Maybe require an option to
> >> enable compiling this style of dts?
> >
> > Yeah. To avoid further proliferation of options, I'm thinking a
> > single "backwards compat" option which would:
> > - Use the dtb magic instead of dtb magic
> > - Disable checks which would reject explicit creation of
> > __overlay__ / __symbols__ / __fixups__ nodes
> > - Anything other special behaviour we need
> >
> >> I can imagine some reasons to support the fully written out version,
> >> but can we document what those reasons are?
> >
> > I believe the main one is the dts files in this format out in the
> > field. Mind you, I guess we're already requiring them to tweak how
> > they declare the /plugin/ option.
>
> It might be easy to write a program that transforms the expanded
> format to the simple format. I'll try to make some time to see
> how difficult it is. The transformation is relatively easy to
> do manually, but I don't know how many dts files would need to
> be converted.
It's not totally trivial, because such a program would basically need
a full dts parser. But.. if we change the dtc internals to work with
a list of overlays rather than a single tree, there's a relatively
obvious path to it: we can implement parsing a dtbo input into a set
of fragments rather than an assembled overlay and dts output in
fragment form. Then converting from old-dts to dtb and back to dts
would pretty much do what's needed. At the cost of losing comments,
though :/.
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-28 16:05 [PATCH v11 0/4] dtc: Dynamic DT support Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <1480349141-14145-1-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-28 16:05 ` [PATCH v11 1/7] dtc: Document the dynamic plugin internals Pantelis Antoniou
2016-11-28 16:05 ` [PATCH v11 2/7] dtc: Plugin and fixup support Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <1480349141-14145-3-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 2:38 ` David Gibson
2016-11-28 16:05 ` [PATCH v11 3/7] tests: Add check_path test Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <1480349141-14145-4-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 2:40 ` David Gibson
2016-11-28 16:05 ` [PATCH v11 4/7] tests: Add overlay tests Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <1480349141-14145-5-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 3:08 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20161129030807.GH13307-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 11:11 ` Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <17F182F7-CDF7-4052-86C2-B40505706ED4-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 0:35 ` David Gibson
2016-11-30 9:04 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2016-11-28 16:05 ` [PATCH v11 5/7] overlay: Documentation for the overlay sugar syntax Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <1480349141-14145-6-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 3:10 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20161129031054.GI13307-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 4:36 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <583D05B7.4040109-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 5:10 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20161129051042.GO13307-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 16:45 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <583DB09C.7060105-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 0:39 ` David Gibson [this message]
2016-11-30 9:07 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2016-11-28 16:05 ` [PATCH v11 6/7] overlay: Add syntactic sugar version of overlays Pantelis Antoniou
2016-11-28 16:05 ` [PATCH v11 7/7] tests: Add a test for overlays syntactic sugar Pantelis Antoniou
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