From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH rdma-next 01/10] IB/core: Add raw packet protocol
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:08:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161130170830.GA17512@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR0501MB28128CDB112558C5980CB638B18C0-692Kmc8YnlIVrnpjwTCbp8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 05:01:32PM +0000, Liran Liss wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe [mailto:jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org]
>
> >
> > > Exactly. If/when such devices appear, we would need to extend
> > > connection management to specify the protocol, rather than infer it
> > > from the port space.
> >
> > We support that perfectly today as long as the port creates two 'struct
> > ib_devices'. Anything else will require some kind of changes to libibverb's API to
> > specify the AH style.
> >
>
> rdmacm would still have to choose between these ib_devices somehow
Each ib_device is either iwarp or rocee, the rdma cm would route iwarp
stuff to the iwarp one and rocee stuff to the rocee one. Not really a
problem with today's architecture.
> - this doesn't change anything. Also, AHs are already
> port-specific. So, I don't see any issue in this regard.
The current scheme infers the protocol of the AH from the current
configuration of the port, which is a crazy API when the port's
protocol can change on the fly.
> In any case, we have millions of multi-port devices that can use
> different link types deployed. This is the specification, and more
> such devices could appear in the future. We cannot change the
> device model.
Of course we can change how they are modeled in Linux, it is just
software.
> No doubt that the new ABI would be a lot more flexible and
> self-describing. But it would take a while until we port everything
> to use it. So, generally, I don't see any problem using the current
> extensibility capabilities to support useful semantics.
Perhaps a moritorium on some changes to the current uAPI will
encourage the new one to get finished :P
Jason
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2016-11-27 14:51 [PATCH rdma-next 00/10] Support RAW Ethernet when RoCE is disabled Leon Romanovsky
[not found] ` <1480258296-27032-1-git-send-email-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-27 14:51 ` [PATCH rdma-next 01/10] IB/core: Add raw packet protocol Leon Romanovsky
[not found] ` <1480258296-27032-2-git-send-email-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-28 17:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161128170056.GC28381-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-28 17:08 ` Steve Wise
2016-11-30 2:07 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <cfdf28c6-4715-28d4-7da6-453fb6794c29-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 2:33 ` Tom Talpey
[not found] ` <5927e04b-42ec-52c1-88a3-456cc4409334-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 16:18 ` Doug Ledford
2016-11-30 16:30 ` Liran Liss
[not found] ` <HE1PR0501MB28124286F8D902C49596EF85B18C0-692Kmc8YnlIVrnpjwTCbp8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 16:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161130163949.GC24639-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 16:59 ` Or Gerlitz
2016-11-30 17:01 ` Liran Liss
[not found] ` <HE1PR0501MB28128CDB112558C5980CB638B18C0-692Kmc8YnlIVrnpjwTCbp8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 17:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
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2016-11-30 17:25 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0BA190-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 17:27 ` Steve Wise
2016-11-30 17:30 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0BA1B7-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-01 13:06 ` Tom Talpey
[not found] ` <d4bab4a9-aa32-282f-b501-ecfc00b0be0f-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-01 19:07 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0BA68E-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-04 20:38 ` Liran Liss
[not found] ` <HE1PR0501MB2812393A0A690DEC1E03DE3FB1800-692Kmc8YnlIVrnpjwTCbp8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-05 17:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161205171013.GA27784-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-05 20:14 ` Liran Liss
[not found] ` <HE1PR0501MB2812A66403A8C19AF83742EDB1830-692Kmc8YnlIVrnpjwTCbp8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-06 21:26 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJ3xEMhYs0jtXYDqAXEw17Fk4padG903J3enL+uNPg_fNk-9Uw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-06 21:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161206213938.GC647-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-06 22:13 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0BBEC7-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-07 22:06 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <d7bca935-32cb-51ee-beea-724e1a5b748a-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-07 22:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161207224044.GA23093-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-08 9:29 ` Liran Liss
[not found] ` <HE1PR0501MB28127FEFC67D9F71BF14BB6CB1840-692Kmc8YnlIVrnpjwTCbp8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-08 17:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-30 17:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161130173211.GA9067-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 18:17 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0BA20F-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 18:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2016-11-30 18:46 ` Hefty, Sean
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2016-11-30 18:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-30 16:29 ` Hefty, Sean
2016-11-30 16:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161130163621.GB24639-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 19:35 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <0f905c52-b167-4b7d-4fd0-091056997e47-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-30 21:12 ` Hefty, Sean
2016-11-28 20:57 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJ3xEMiv6HCu-9fi12XtafxYWu-+gNPMbnfb-A4-+FrgR6KZNA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-28 22:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161128222559.GB744-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 6:35 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJ3xEMiC3UDujgSL5fwP7ee1=OjhorZ2aeB1k+ptGb9GWaUVkg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 16:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-27 14:51 ` [PATCH rdma-next 02/10] IB/mlx5: Support " Leon Romanovsky
2016-11-27 14:51 ` [PATCH rdma-next 03/10] IB/mlx4: " Leon Romanovsky
2016-11-27 14:51 ` [PATCH rdma-next 04/10] IB: Add protocol for USNIC Leon Romanovsky
2016-11-27 14:51 ` [PATCH rdma-next 05/10] IB: Query port through the core instead of directly calling the driver handler Leon Romanovsky
2016-11-27 14:51 ` [PATCH rdma-next 06/10] IB/core: Enable to query QP types supported by IB device on a port Leon Romanovsky
[not found] ` <1480258296-27032-7-git-send-email-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-16 20:11 ` ira.weiny
[not found] ` <20161216201158.GE12582-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-18 7:37 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-12-18 21:07 ` Or Gerlitz
2016-11-27 14:51 ` [PATCH rdma-next 07/10] IB/uverbs: Propagate supported QP types to user-space Leon Romanovsky
2016-11-27 14:51 ` [PATCH rdma-next 08/10] IB/mlx5: Refactor registration to netdev notifier Leon Romanovsky
2016-11-27 14:51 ` [PATCH rdma-next 09/10] IB/mlx5: Rename RoCE related helpers to reflect being Eth ones Leon Romanovsky
2016-11-27 14:51 ` [PATCH rdma-next 10/10] IB/mlx5: Support RAW Ethernet when RoCE is disabled Leon Romanovsky
2016-12-14 19:06 ` [PATCH rdma-next 00/10] " Doug Ledford
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