From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andrew Lunn Subject: Re: DSA vs. SWTICHDEV ? Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:09:27 +0100 Message-ID: <20161130180927.GK21645@lunn.ch> References: <1480495831.3563.135.camel@infinera.com> <20161130135257.GC18716@lunn.ch> <1480516241.3563.142.camel@infinera.com> <20161130152503.GE21645@lunn.ch> <1480523716.3563.144.camel@infinera.com> <20161130165500.GH21645@lunn.ch> <1480527852.3563.146.camel@infinera.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" To: Joakim Tjernlund , Jiri Pirko , Florian Fainelli Return-path: Received: from vps0.lunn.ch ([178.209.37.122]:35355 "EHLO vps0.lunn.ch" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753106AbcK3SJb (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:09:31 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1480527852.3563.146.camel@infinera.com> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: > Something like that. I need to run routing protocols on the switch I/Fs and egress > pkgs on selected switch I/Fs bypassing ARP, just like DSA does with its vendor > tags. Does the switch have an equivalent tagging protocol? If you are building a tree of switches you need something like this for frames going from the host via intermediate switches and out a specific port on a remote switch. > We might have a tree as well so now I really wonder: Given we write a > proper switchdev driver, can it support switchtrees without touching > switchdev infra structure? Jiri Pirko is probably the best person to ask about this. DSA hides the knowledge that there is multiple switches. To switchdev, a tree of switches looks like one switch. This is not because of switchdev, it is just the existing DSA code worked when switchdev came along. If not I guess we will attach a physical > eth I/F to the switch and use both DSA and switchdev to support both trees > and HW offload. This only works if the switch has the necessary tagging protocol to pass through multiple switches. > We have on an existing board with a BCM ROBO switch with lots of ports(>24), > managed over SPI. Looking at BCM DSA tag code it looks like it only supports > some 8 ports or so. I still have to find out if this is a limitation in BCM tagging > protocol or if just not impl. in DSA yet. Hi Florian, care to comment? As far as i understand, the tag used for SF2 and B53 does not support a tree of switches. But the big ROBO switches might have a different tagging protocol. Andrew