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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Giuseppe CAVALLARO <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>, alexandre.torgue@st.com
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.9-rc6: coalescing related pauses.
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 09:45:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161202084511.GA32294@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b6ac7a3c-6774-9568-1cc0-97074eaa928f@st.com>

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Hi!

> >>1 HZ, which is the lowest granularity of non-highres timers in the
> >>kernel, is variable as well as already too large of a delay for
> >>effective TX coalescing.
> >>
> >>I seriously think that the TX coalescing support should be ripped out
> >>or disabled entirely until it is implemented properly in this
> >>driver.
> >
> >Ok, I'd disable coalescing, but could not figure it out till. What is
> >generic way to do that?
> >
> >It seems only thing stmmac_tx_timer() does is calling
> >stmmac_tx_clean(), which reclaims tx_skbuff[] entries. It should be
> >possible to do that explicitely, without delay, but it stops working
> >completely if I attempt to do that.
> >
> >On a side note, stmmac_poll() does stmmac_enable_dma_irq() while
> >stmmac_dma_interrupt() disables interrupts. But I don't see any
> >protection between the two, so IMO it could race and we'd end up
> >without polling or interrupts...
> 
> 
> the idea behind the TX mitigation is to mix the interrupt and
> timer and this approach gave us real benefit in terms
> of performances and CPU usage (especially on SH4-200/SH4-300 platforms
> based).

Well, if you have a workload that sends and receive packets, it tends
to work ok, as you do tx_clean() in stmmac_poll(). My workload is not
like that -- it is "sending packets at 3MB/sec, receiving none". So
the stmmac_tx_timer() is rescheduled and rescheduled and rescheduled,
and then we run out of transmit descriptors, and then 40msec passes,
and then we clean them. Bad.

And that's why low-res timers do not cut it.

> In the ring, some descriptors can raise the irq (according to a
> threshold) and set the IC bit. In this path, the NAPI  poll will be
> scheduled.

Not NAPI poll but stmmac_tx_timer(), right? 

> But there is a timer that can run (and we experimented that no high
> resolution is needed) to clear the tx resources.
> Concerning the lock protection, we had reviewed long time ago and
> IIRC, no raise condition should be present. Open to review it,
> again!

Well, I certainly like the fact that we are talking :-).

And yes, I have some questions.

There's nothing that protect stmmac_poll() from running concurently
with stmmac_dma_interrupt(), right?

Best regards,
									Pavel
-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-02  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-23 10:51 stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.4: coalescing related pauses? Pavel Machek
2016-11-24  8:55 ` stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.9-rc6: coalescing related pauses Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 10:29   ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 10:36     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 10:46       ` [PATCH] stmmac ethernet: unify locking Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 11:05         ` [PATCH] stmmac ethernet: remove cut & paste code Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 20:05           ` Joe Perches
2016-11-24 21:44             ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 22:27               ` Joe Perches
2016-11-28 11:50                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 14:24                   ` Joe Perches
2016-11-28 14:35                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 16:03                       ` Joe Perches
2016-11-24 16:04   ` stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.9-rc6: coalescing related pauses David Miller
2016-11-24 21:25     ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02  8:24       ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02  8:41         ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02  8:45         ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2016-12-02  9:43           ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02 12:32             ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02 13:51               ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02 14:26                 ` Alexandre Torgue
2016-12-02 15:19                   ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-05 12:14                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 12:01                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 10:15             ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 11:40               ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 22:02                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 22:37                   ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 22:40                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 22:54                       ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 23:11                         ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-02 14:05           ` Aw: " Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-07 12:31             ` [RFC] " Pavel Machek
2016-12-07 13:18               ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 11:56         ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 11:55     ` [PATCH] stmmac: fix comments, make debug output consistent Pavel Machek
2016-11-30  0:53       ` David Miller
2016-11-28 12:13     ` stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.9-rc6: coalescing related pauses Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 12:17     ` [PATCH] stmmac: reduce code duplication getting basic descriptors Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 15:25       ` kbuild test robot
2016-12-02 14:09       ` Alexandre Torgue
2016-11-30 11:44     ` [PATCH] stmmac: simplify flag assignment Pavel Machek
2016-12-01 20:23       ` David Miller
2016-12-01 22:48         ` stmmac: turn coalescing / NAPI off in stmmac Pavel Machek
2016-12-02  8:39           ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02 10:42             ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02 15:31               ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-05 11:45                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02  8:27       ` [PATCH] stmmac: simplify flag assignment Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-01 10:32     ` [PATCH] stmmac: cleanup documenation, make it match reality Pavel Machek
2016-12-03 20:07       ` David Miller
2016-12-05 12:27     ` [PATCH] stmmac: disable tx coalescing Pavel Machek
2016-12-11 19:07       ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-11 19:31         ` David Miller
2016-12-11 19:57           ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 13:07 ` stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.4: coalescing related pauses? Lino Sanfilippo
2016-11-28 14:54   ` David Miller
2016-11-28 15:31     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-11-28 15:57       ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-11-28 16:30         ` David Miller
2016-11-28 17:01           ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-11-30 10:28       ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 15:33     ` Lino Sanfilippo

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