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From: qiyaoltc@gmail.com (Yao Qi)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 00/29] arm64: Scalable Vector Extension core support
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 21:56:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161202215646.s2xymph6d6jlyrv3@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161130120654.GJ1574@e103592.cambridge.arm.com>

On 16-11-30 12:06:54, Dave Martin wrote:
> So, my key goal is to support _per-process_ vector length control.
> 
> From the kernel perspective, it is easiest to achieve this by providing
> per-thread control since that is the unit that context switching acts
> on.
>

Hi, Dave,
Thanks for the explanation.

> How useful it really is to have threads with different VLs in the same
> process is an open question.  It's theoretically useful for runtime
> environments, which may want to dispatch code optimised for different
> VLs -- changing the VL on-the-fly within a single thread is not
> something I want to encourage, due to overhead and ABI issues, but
> switching between threads of different VLs would be more manageable.

This is a weird programming model.

> However, I expect mixing different VLs within a single process to be
> very much a special case -- it's not something I'd expect to work with
> general-purpose code.
> 
> Since the need for indepent VLs per thread is not proven, we could
> 
>  * forbid it -- i.e., only a thread-group leader with no children is
> permitted to change the VL, which is then inherited by any child threads
> that are subsequently created
> 
>  * permit it only if a special flag is specified when requesting the VL
> change
> 
>  * permit it and rely on userspace to be sensible -- easiest option for
> the kernel.

Both the first and the third one is reasonable to me, but the first one
fit well in existing GDB design.  I don't know how useful it is to have
per-thread VL, there may be some workloads can be implemented that way.
GDB needs some changes to support "per-thread" target description.

-- 
Yao 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-02 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-25 19:38 [RFC PATCH 00/29] arm64: Scalable Vector Extension core support Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH 01/29] arm64: signal: Refactor sigcontext parsing in rt_sigreturn Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH 02/29] arm64: signal: factor frame layout and population into separate passes Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH 03/29] arm64: signal: factor out signal frame record allocation Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH 04/29] arm64: signal: Allocate extra sigcontext space as needed Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH 05/29] arm64: signal: Parse extra_context during sigreturn Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH 06/29] arm64: efi: Add missing Kconfig dependency on KERNEL_MODE_NEON Dave Martin
2016-11-25 20:25   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-11-25 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH 07/29] arm64/sve: Allow kernel-mode NEON to be disabled in Kconfig Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH 08/29] arm64/sve: Low-level save/restore code Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH 09/29] arm64/sve: Boot-time feature detection and reporting Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH 10/29] arm64/sve: Boot-time feature enablement Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH 11/29] arm64/sve: Expand task_struct for Scalable Vector Extension state Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 12/29] arm64/sve: Save/restore SVE state on context switch paths Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 13/29] arm64/sve: Basic support for KERNEL_MODE_NEON Dave Martin
2016-11-25 20:45   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-11-26 11:30     ` Catalin Marinas
2016-11-28 11:47       ` Dave Martin
2016-11-28 12:06         ` Catalin Marinas
2016-11-28 12:29           ` Dave Martin
2016-12-06 15:36             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 14/29] Revert "arm64/sve: Allow kernel-mode NEON to be disabled in Kconfig" Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 15/29] arm64/sve: Restore working FPSIMD save/restore around signals Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 16/29] arm64/sve: signal: Add SVE state record to sigcontext Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 17/29] arm64/sve: signal: Dump Scalable Vector Extension registers to user stack Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 18/29] arm64/sve: signal: Restore FPSIMD/SVE state in rt_sigreturn Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 19/29] arm64/sve: Avoid corruption when replacing the SVE state Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 20/29] arm64/sve: traps: Add descriptive string for SVE exceptions Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 21/29] arm64/sve: Enable SVE on demand for userspace Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 22/29] arm64/sve: Implement FPSIMD-only context for tasks not using SVE Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 23/29] arm64/sve: Move ZEN handling to the common task_fpsimd_load() path Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 24/29] arm64/sve: Discard SVE state on system call Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 25/29] arm64/sve: Avoid preempt_disable() during sigreturn Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 26/29] arm64/sve: Avoid stale user register state after SVE access exception Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 27/29] arm64/sve: ptrace support Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 28/29] arm64: KVM: Treat SVE use by guests as undefined instruction execution Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 29/29] arm64/sve: Limit vector length to 512 bits by default Dave Martin
2016-11-30  9:56 ` [RFC PATCH 00/29] arm64: Scalable Vector Extension core support Yao Qi
2016-11-30 12:06   ` Dave Martin
2016-11-30 12:22     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-11-30 14:10       ` Dave Martin
2016-11-30 12:38     ` Florian Weimer
2016-11-30 13:56       ` Dave Martin
2016-12-01  9:21         ` Florian Weimer
2016-12-01 10:30           ` Dave Martin
2016-12-01 12:19             ` Dave Martin
2016-12-05 10:44             ` Florian Weimer
2016-12-05 11:07               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-12-05 15:04               ` Dave Martin
2016-12-02 11:48       ` Dave Martin
2016-12-02 16:34         ` Florian Weimer
2016-12-02 16:59           ` Joseph Myers
2016-12-02 18:21             ` Dave Martin
2016-12-02 21:56               ` Joseph Myers
2016-12-02 21:56     ` Yao Qi [this message]
2016-12-05 15:12       ` Dave Martin
2016-12-05 22:42     ` Torvald Riegel
2016-12-06 14:46       ` Dave Martin
2016-11-30 10:08 ` Florian Weimer
2016-11-30 11:05   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-11-30 14:06     ` Dave Martin

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