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From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 0/2] Hibernate fixes for 'Fix memmap to be initialized for the entire section'
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 17:38:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161206173810.GU2498@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu9AVVPp+UM5pCeYCt4HE-Azijp0iUf0QZv6YKFgAuckYw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 03:42:14PM +0000, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On 2 December 2016 at 14:49, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> wrote:
> > Patch "arm64: mm: Fix memmap to be initialized for the entire section"
> > changes pfn_valid() in a way that breaks hibernate. These patches fix
> > hibernate, and provided struct page's are allocated for nomap pages,
> > can be applied before [0].
> >
> > Hibernate core code belives 'valid' to mean "I can access this". It
> > uses pfn_valid() to test the page if the page is 'valid'.
> >
> > pfn_valid() needs to be changed so that all struct pages in a numa
> > node have the same node-id. Currently 'nomap' pages are skipped, and
> > retain their pre-numa node-ids, which leads to a later BUG_ON().
> >
> > These patches make hibernate's savable_page() take its escape route
> > via 'if (PageReserved(page) && pfn_is_nosave(pfn))'.
> >
> 
> This makes me feel slightly uneasy. Robert makes a convincing point,
> but I wonder if we can expect more fallout from the ambiguity of
> pfn_valid(). Now we are not only forced to assign non-existing (as far
> as the OS is concerned) pages to the correct NUMA node, we also need
> to set certain page flags.

Yes, I really don't know how to proceed here. Playing whack-a-mole with
pfn_valid() users doesn't sounds like an improvement on the current
situation to me.

Robert -- if we leave pfn_valid() as it is, would a point-hack to
memmap_init_zone help, or do you anticipate other problems?

Will

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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Robert Richter <rrichter@cavium.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	David Daney <david.daney@cavium.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@linaro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Hibernate fixes for 'Fix memmap to be initialized for the entire section'
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 17:38:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161206173810.GU2498@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu9AVVPp+UM5pCeYCt4HE-Azijp0iUf0QZv6YKFgAuckYw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 03:42:14PM +0000, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On 2 December 2016 at 14:49, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> wrote:
> > Patch "arm64: mm: Fix memmap to be initialized for the entire section"
> > changes pfn_valid() in a way that breaks hibernate. These patches fix
> > hibernate, and provided struct page's are allocated for nomap pages,
> > can be applied before [0].
> >
> > Hibernate core code belives 'valid' to mean "I can access this". It
> > uses pfn_valid() to test the page if the page is 'valid'.
> >
> > pfn_valid() needs to be changed so that all struct pages in a numa
> > node have the same node-id. Currently 'nomap' pages are skipped, and
> > retain their pre-numa node-ids, which leads to a later BUG_ON().
> >
> > These patches make hibernate's savable_page() take its escape route
> > via 'if (PageReserved(page) && pfn_is_nosave(pfn))'.
> >
> 
> This makes me feel slightly uneasy. Robert makes a convincing point,
> but I wonder if we can expect more fallout from the ambiguity of
> pfn_valid(). Now we are not only forced to assign non-existing (as far
> as the OS is concerned) pages to the correct NUMA node, we also need
> to set certain page flags.

Yes, I really don't know how to proceed here. Playing whack-a-mole with
pfn_valid() users doesn't sounds like an improvement on the current
situation to me.

Robert -- if we leave pfn_valid() as it is, would a point-hack to
memmap_init_zone help, or do you anticipate other problems?

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-06 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-30 18:21 [PATCH v2] arm64: mm: Fix memmap to be initialized for the entire section Robert Richter
2016-11-30 18:21 ` Robert Richter
2016-12-01 16:45 ` Will Deacon
2016-12-01 16:45   ` Will Deacon
2016-12-01 17:26   ` James Morse
2016-12-01 17:26     ` James Morse
2016-12-02  7:11     ` Robert Richter
2016-12-02  7:11       ` Robert Richter
2016-12-02 14:48       ` James Morse
2016-12-02 14:48         ` James Morse
2016-12-02 14:49 ` [PATCH 0/2] Hibernate fixes for 'Fix memmap to be initialized for the entire section' James Morse
2016-12-02 14:49   ` James Morse
2016-12-02 14:49   ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: mm: Mark nomap regions with the PG_reserved flag James Morse
2016-12-02 14:49     ` James Morse
2016-12-02 14:49   ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: hibernate: report nomap regions as being pfn_nosave James Morse
2016-12-02 14:49     ` James Morse
2016-12-05 15:42   ` [PATCH 0/2] Hibernate fixes for 'Fix memmap to be initialized for the entire section' Ard Biesheuvel
2016-12-05 15:42     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-12-06 17:38     ` Will Deacon [this message]
2016-12-06 17:38       ` Will Deacon
2016-12-07  9:06       ` Robert Richter
2016-12-07  9:06         ` Robert Richter
2016-12-07 14:32         ` Will Deacon
2016-12-07 14:32           ` Will Deacon
2016-12-09 12:14 ` [PATCH v2] arm64: mm: Fix memmap to be initialized for the entire section Yisheng Xie
2016-12-09 12:14   ` Yisheng Xie
2016-12-09 12:19   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-12-09 12:19     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-12-09 12:23     ` Hanjun Guo
2016-12-09 12:23       ` Hanjun Guo
2016-12-09 13:15       ` Yisheng Xie
2016-12-09 13:15         ` Yisheng Xie
2016-12-09 14:52         ` Robert Richter
2016-12-09 14:52           ` Robert Richter
2016-12-12 12:02           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-12-12 12:02             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-12-09 14:51   ` Robert Richter
2016-12-09 14:51     ` Robert Richter

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