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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, pmladek@suse.cz, sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: Wait for oom_lock before retrying.
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 13:42:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161214124231.GI25573@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201612142037.AAC60483.HVOSOJFLMOFtQF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Wed 14-12-16 20:37:07, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 13-12-16 21:06:57, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > http://I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp/tmp/serial-20161213.txt.xz is a console log with
> > > this patch applied. Due to hung task warnings disabled, amount of messages
> > > are significantly reduced.
> > > 
> > > Uptime > 400 are testcases where the stresser was invoked via "taskset -c 0".
> > > Since there are some "** XXX printk messages dropped **" messages, I can't
> > > tell whether the OOM killer was able to make forward progress. But guessing
> > >  from the result that there is no corresponding "Killed process" line for
> > > "Out of memory: " line at uptime = 450 and the duration of PID 14622 stalled,
> > > I think it is OK to say that the system got stuck because the OOM killer was
> > > not able to make forward progress.
> > 
> > The oom situation certainly didn't get resolved. I would be really
> > curious whether we can rule out the printk out of the picture, though. I
> > am still not sure we can rule out some obscure OOM killer bug at this
> > stage.
> > 
> > What if we lower the loglevel as much as possible to only see KERN_ERR
> > should be sufficient to see few oom killer messages while suppressing
> > most of the other noise. Unfortunatelly, even messages with level >
> > loglevel get stored into the ringbuffer (as I've just learned) so
> > console_unlock() has to crawl through them just to drop them (Meh) but
> > at least it doesn't have to go to the serial console drivers and spend
> > even more time there. An alternative would be to tweak printk to not
> > even store those messaes. Something like the below
> 
> Changing loglevel is not a option for me. Under OOM, syslog cannot work.
> Only messages sent to serial console / netconsole are available for
> understanding something went wrong. And serial consoles may be very slow.
> We need to try to avoid uncontrolled printk().

That is definitely true I just wanted the above for the sake of testing
and rulling out a different problem because currently it is not clear to
me that this is the printk livelock issue. Evidences are quite
convincing but not 100% sure. So...

> > So it would be really great if you could
> > 	1) test with the fixed throttling
> > 	2) loglevel=4 on the kernel command line
> > 	3) try the above with the same loglevel
> > 
> > ideally 1) would be sufficient and that would make the most sense from
> > the warn_alloc point of view. If this is 2 or 3 then we are hitting a
> > more generic problem and I would be quite careful to hack it around.
> 
> Thus, I don't think I can do these.

i think this would be really valuable.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-14 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-06 10:33 [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: Wait for oom_lock before retrying Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-07  8:15 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-07 15:29   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-08  8:20     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-12-08 11:00       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-08 13:32         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-08 16:18         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-08 13:27     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-09 14:23       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-09 14:46         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-10 11:24           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-12  9:07             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-12 11:49               ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-12 13:00                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-12 14:05                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-13  1:06                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-12 12:12               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-12 12:55                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-12 13:19                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-13 12:06                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-13 17:06                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-14 11:37                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-14 12:42                           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-12-14 16:36                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-14 18:18                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-15 10:21                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-19 11:25                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-19 12:27                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-20 15:39                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-22 10:27                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-22 10:53                                           ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-22 13:40                                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-22 13:33                                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-22 19:24                                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-24  6:25                                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-26 11:49                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 10:39                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-27 10:57                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-22 13:42                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-22 14:01                                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-22 14:09                                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-22 14:30                                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-26 10:54                                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-26 11:34                                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-26 11:34                                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-26 11:34                                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-12 13:10                                                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-12 13:10                                                       ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-12 13:10                                                       ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13  2:52                                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13  2:52                                                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13  2:52                                                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13  3:53                                                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13  3:53                                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13  3:53                                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13 11:15                                                           ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 11:15                                                             ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 11:15                                                             ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 11:14                                                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 11:14                                                           ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 11:14                                                           ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-12 14:18                                                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-12 14:18                                                       ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-12 14:18                                                       ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13  2:28                                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13  2:28                                                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13  2:28                                                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13 11:03                                                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 11:03                                                           ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 11:03                                                           ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 11:50                                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13 11:50                                                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13 11:50                                                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13 12:15                                                             ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 12:15                                                               ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 12:15                                                               ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-26 11:41                                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13 14:03                                                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-15  1:11                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-15  6:35                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-15 10:16                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14  9:37                       ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14 10:20                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-14 11:01                           ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14 12:23                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-14 12:47                               ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14 10:26                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-15  7:34                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-14 11:37                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-14 12:36                           ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14 12:44                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-14 13:36                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-14 13:52                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-14 12:50                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-12 14:59                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-12 15:55                     ` Michal Hocko

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