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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Tommaso Cucinotta <tommaso.cucinotta@sssup.it>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@gmail.com>,
	Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@unitn.it>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Claudio Scordino <claudio@evidence.eu.com>,
	Daniel Bistrot de Oliveira <danielbristot@gmail.com>,
	Henrik Austad <henrik@austad.us>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFD] sched/deadline: Support single CPU affinity
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 13:16:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161215121626.GW3124@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d8f4ed40-af18-846f-2b85-351f5c81d0be@sssup.it>

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:30:43PM +0100, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On 13/12/2016 11:21, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:01:59AM +0100, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:
> >>Just a note: if you want to recover arbitrary task affinities, you can re-cast your above test like this:
> >>
> >>for_each_processor(cpu)
> >>   \sum U[t]/A[t] \leq 1 (or U_max), for each task t on cpu, with utilization U[t] and A[t] tasks overall in its affinity mask
> >>
> >Do I read it correct when I interpret A[t] as the number of CPUs in its
> >affinity mask?
> 
> yes, exactly, A[t] number of CPUs in the task affinity mask (sorry for my bad write-up)

n/p, I got it ;-)

> >Also, does recoverable mean a bound tardiness, or is that something
> >weaker still?
> 
> nope, nothing exact -- it just meant providing flexible but simple &
> consistent (ie, towards recovering affinity masks) options from the
> kernel/scheduler side, leaving more complex & exact tests to
> user-space, or future add-ons to the kernel.

So it would be good to get a more exact answer on what 'recoverable'
means. It cannot mean unbounded tardiness, since that implies runaway
state. It clearly doesn't mean no tardiness, as proven by the G-EDF
special case.

So I was hoping it would mean bounded, but possibly with a worse bound
than regular G-EDF.

In any case, it does provide a way to look at admission control that
might be useful. I'll have to play around with it a bit.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-15 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-10  8:08 [RFD] sched/deadline: Support single CPU affinity Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-10  9:06 ` luca abeni
2016-11-10 10:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-10 12:27     ` luca abeni
2016-11-10 11:03   ` Tommaso Cucinotta
2016-11-10 14:34     ` luca abeni
2016-11-10 10:01 ` Tommaso Cucinotta
2016-12-13 10:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-15 11:30     ` Tommaso Cucinotta
2016-12-15 12:16       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-11-10 12:21 ` Henrik Austad
2016-11-10 12:38   ` luca abeni
2016-11-10 12:56     ` Henrik Austad
2016-11-10 14:23       ` luca abeni
2016-11-10 12:56   ` Peter Zijlstra

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