From: "AKASHI, Takahiro" <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: park jinbum <jinb.park7@gmail.com>,
kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Introduction
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:23:48 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170113082347.GJ20972@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170112160602.GA12583@leverpostej>
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 04:06:02PM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 12:06:31AM +0900, park jinbum wrote:
> > Hello All,
>
> Hi,
>
> > I'd like to contribute to kernel self protection project.
> > I've experienced ARM kernel, security solution on production.
> > (kernel memory protection, contents protection, ...)
> >
> > I'm interested in following topics.
> > - Move kernel stack to vmap area (done on x86, other archs still need it)
>
> FWIW, I'm looking at this for arm64 (and Takahiro-san is also looking at
> this area). Making the stacks virtually mapped is fairly trivial, but
> implementing reliable {under,over}flow handling is fairly involved.
>
> 32-bit ARM is also somewhat starved for vmalloc space, so ignoring the
> difficulties in exception handling changes, I'm not sure that's going to
> be widely deployable.
>
> I believe it should be possible to implement THREAD_INFO_IN_TASK for arm
> similarly to arm64, which would bring some benefit regardless.
>
> Takahiro-san, were you looking into that at all?
No, never.
I'm currently taking a quick look at PAX_MEMORY_STACKLEAK and
PAX_MEMORY_STRUCTLEAK (on both arm64 and x86 though arch-specific
portion of code is quite small).
-Takahiro AKASHI
> > - KASLR for ARM
>
> Given the small amount of VA space on 32-bit, and the potential of
> kernel addresses to be determined by other means, I'm not sure that
> there's much gain from this relative to the work involved.
>
> > - protect ARM vector table as fixed-location kernel target
>
> I'm not exactly sure what this means (I see it was taken from the KSPP
> todo list?). Kees -- did you have a specific idea here?
>
> On cores with VBAR, the vectors can be moved, so it might be possible to
> dynamically allocate them at a random position. Otherwise, I was under
> the impression that this was RO with DEBUG_RODATA selected.
>
> ... on that note, mandating DEBUG_RODATA for 32-bit ARM would be a good
> step forward.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-13 8:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-12 15:06 [kernel-hardening] Introduction park jinbum
2017-01-12 16:06 ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-13 8:23 ` AKASHI, Takahiro [this message]
2017-01-13 17:54 ` Kees Cook
2017-01-13 18:51 ` PaX Team
2017-01-13 19:06 ` Kees Cook
2017-01-13 19:26 ` Kees Cook
2017-01-13 20:38 ` Kees Cook
2017-01-13 23:09 ` PaX Team
2017-01-13 23:15 ` Kees Cook
2017-01-14 10:10 ` PaX Team
2017-01-17 17:32 ` Kees Cook
2017-01-17 18:43 ` PaX Team
2017-01-13 20:35 ` PaX Team
2017-01-13 21:57 ` Daniel Micay
2017-01-13 22:04 ` Kees Cook
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-01-24 0:06 Jessica Frazelle
2017-01-25 19:37 ` Kees Cook
2017-01-26 4:12 ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-01-26 21:42 ` Kees Cook
2017-01-27 19:14 ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-01-30 20:02 ` Kees Cook
2015-12-17 23:34 Leibowitz, Michael
2015-12-18 0:36 ` Kees Cook
2015-12-18 0:48 ` Daniel Micay
2015-12-18 16:54 ` Schaufler, Casey
2015-12-18 21:11 ` Kees Cook
2015-12-18 1:00 ` Solar Designer
2015-12-18 2:42 ` David Windsor
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