From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] PTP: add kvm PTP driver
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:39:12 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170116173909.GA4639@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170116172758.GB31452@potion>
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 06:27:58PM +0100, Radim Krcmar wrote:
> 2017-01-16 15:08-0200, Marcelo Tosatti:
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 05:54:11PM +0100, Radim Krcmar wrote:
> >> 2017-01-16 17:26+0100, Radim Krcmar:
> >> > 2017-01-13 15:40-0200, Marcelo Tosatti:
> >> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 04:56:58PM +0100, Radim Krcmar wrote:
> >> >> > 2017-01-13 10:01-0200, Marcelo Tosatti:
> >> >>> > + version = pvclock_read_begin(src);
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > + ret = kvm_hypercall2(KVM_HC_CLOCK_OFFSET,
> >> >>> > + clock_off_gpa,
> >> >>> > + KVM_CLOCK_OFFSET_WALLCLOCK);
> >> >>> > + if (ret != 0) {
> >> >>> > + pr_err("clock offset hypercall ret %lu\n", ret);
> >> >>> > + spin_unlock(&kvm_ptp_lock);
> >> >>> > + preempt_enable_notrace();
> >> >>> > + return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> >> >>> > + }
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > + tspec.tv_sec = clock_off.sec;
> >> >>> > + tspec.tv_nsec = clock_off.nsec;
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > + delta = rdtsc_ordered() - clock_off.tsc;
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > + offset = pvclock_scale_delta(delta, src->tsc_to_system_mul,
> >> >>> > + src->tsc_shift);
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > + } while (pvclock_read_retry(src, version));
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > + preempt_enable_notrace();
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > + tspec.tv_nsec = tspec.tv_nsec + offset;
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > + spin_unlock(&kvm_ptp_lock);
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > + if (tspec.tv_nsec >= NSEC_PER_SEC) {
> >> >>> > + u64 secs = tspec.tv_nsec;
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > + tspec.tv_nsec = do_div(secs, NSEC_PER_SEC);
> >> >>> > + tspec.tv_sec += secs;
> >> >>> > + }
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > + memcpy(ts, &tspec, sizeof(struct timespec64));
> >> >>>
> >> >>> But the whole idea is of improving the time by reading tsc a bit later
> >> >>> is just weird ... why is it better to provide
> >> >>>
> >> >>> tsc + x, time + tsc_delta_to_time(x)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> than just
> >> >>>
> >> >>> tsc, time
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Because you want to calculate the value of the host realtime clock
> >> >> at the moment of ptp_kvm_gettime.
> >> >>
> >> >> We do:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. kvm_hypercall.
> >> >> 2. get {sec, nsec, guest_tsc}.
> >> >> 3. kvm_hypercall returns.
> >> >> 4. delay = rdtsc() - guest_tsc.
> >> >>
> >> >> Where delay is the delta (measured with the TSC) between points 2 and 4.
> >> >
> >> > I see now ... the PTP interface is just not good for our purposes.
> >>
> >> There is getcrosststamp() callback in PTP, which seems to be exactly
> >> what we want when pairing with TSC, so the pvclock delay fixup can be
> >> dropped when using it.
> >
> > What pvclock delay fixup you refer to? The "rdtsc() - clock_offset.tsc"
> > part?
>
> Yes.
>
> > You can't drop it, because if you do then your "host realtime
> > clock read" will be behind by "rdtsc() - clock_offset.tsc" TSC cycles.
>
> The TSC read will be some cycles old when the hypercall ends, but that
> doesn't matter, because we will pass {sec, nsec, guest_tsc} to PTP and
> PTP should plug them into kernel's realtime clock roughly like this:
>
> sec/nsec + (rdtsc() - guest_tsc) * tsc_freq
>
> Adding delay to guest_tsc and sec/nsec cannot improve precision.
> (And will likely degrade it as kvmclock's frequency is incorrect.)
>
> > We want the highest precision as possible.
>
> I agree, which is why we don't want to lose precision in the delay
> guesswork because of gettime64().
Sorry the clock difference is 10ns now. So the guest clock is off by _10 ns_
of the host clock.
You are suggesting to use getcrosststamp instead, to drop the (rdtsc() -
guest_tsc) part ?
Please be more verbose.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-16 17:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-13 12:01 [patch 0/3] KVM virtual PTP driver Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 12:01 ` [patch 1/3] KVM: x86: provide realtime host clock via vsyscall notifiers Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 15:18 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 15:34 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 16:28 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 17:51 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 15:40 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 15:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-01-13 15:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-01-13 15:46 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 15:46 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 12:01 ` [patch 2/3] KVM: x86: add KVM_HC_CLOCK_OFFSET hypercall Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 15:31 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 15:43 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 17:07 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 17:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 12:01 ` [patch 3/3] PTP: add kvm PTP driver Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 15:56 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 17:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 16:26 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 16:54 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 17:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 17:27 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 17:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2017-01-16 18:01 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 19:36 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 19:47 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 20:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-17 8:03 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-01-17 11:30 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-17 15:36 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-18 12:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 12:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 12:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-18 13:36 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-01-18 14:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-18 14:50 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 15:35 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-18 15:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-18 15:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 14:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 15:54 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-01-18 16:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-18 16:14 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-18 14:37 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 14:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 15:20 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-18 15:28 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 14:18 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-18 15:59 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 17:04 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 17:46 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 19:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-14 15:26 ` Richard Cochran
2017-01-16 15:48 ` Radim Krcmar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-01-13 18:45 [patch 0/3] KVM virtual PTP driver (v2) Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 18:46 ` [patch 3/3] PTP: add kvm PTP driver Marcelo Tosatti
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