From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Vikas Shivappa <vikas.shivappa@linux.intel.com>,
"Shivappa, Vikas" <vikas.shivappa@intel.com>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>,
"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Shankar, Ravi V" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
"Yu, Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
"Kleen, Andi" <andi.kleen@intel.com>,
"Anvin, H Peter" <h.peter.anvin@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 17:19:18 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170202011918.GC26852@two.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALcN6mgoZ7i-Lcu3jaCn-j4P0tWTMVui_BopSW-Ha6qmS_5A3g@mail.gmail.com>
> > I'm not sure this is a real requirement. It's just an optimization,
> > right? If you can assign policies to threads, you can implicitly set it
> > per CPU through affinity (or the other way around).
>
> That's difficult when distinct users/systems do monitoring and system
> management. What if the cluster manager decides to change affinity
> for a task after the monitoring service has initiated monitoring a CPU
> in the way you describe?
Why would you want to monitor a CPU if you don't know what it is
running? The results would be meaningless. So you really want
to integrate those two services.
>
> > The only benefit would be possibly less context switch overhead,
> > but if all the thread (including idle) assigned to a CPU have the
> > same policy it would have the same results.
>
> I think another of the reasons for the CPU monitoring requirement is
> to monitor interruptions in CPUs running the idle thread. In CAT,
idle threads are just threads, so they could be just exposed
to perf (e.g. combination of pid 0 + cpu filter)
> Also, if perf's like monitoring is supported, it'd allow something like
>
> perf stat -e LLC-load,LLC-prefetches,intel_cqm/total_bytes -C 2
This would work without a special API.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-02 1:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-06 21:59 [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-06 21:59 ` [PATCH 01/12] Documentation, x86/cqm: Intel Resource Monitoring Documentation Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-06 21:59 ` [PATCH 02/12] x86/cqm: Remove cqm recycling/conflict handling Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-06 21:59 ` [PATCH 03/12] x86/rdt: Add rdt common/cqm compile option Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-16 18:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-17 17:25 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-06 21:59 ` [PATCH 04/12] x86/cqm: Add Per pkg rmid support Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-16 18:15 ` [PATCH 04/12] x86/cqm: Add Per pkg rmid support\ Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-17 19:11 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-06 21:59 ` [PATCH 05/12] x86/cqm,perf/core: Cgroup support prepare Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-17 12:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-17 12:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-18 2:14 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-17 13:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-17 20:22 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-17 21:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-17 15:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-17 20:27 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-06 21:59 ` [PATCH 06/12] x86/cqm: Add cgroup hierarchical monitoring support Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-17 14:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-06 22:00 ` [PATCH 07/12] x86/rdt,cqm: Scheduling support update Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-17 21:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-17 22:30 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-06 22:00 ` [PATCH 08/12] x86/cqm: Add support for monitoring task and cgroup together Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-17 16:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-06 22:00 ` [PATCH 09/12] x86/cqm: Add RMID reuse Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-17 16:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-18 0:26 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-06 22:00 ` [PATCH 10/12] perf/core,x86/cqm: Add read for Cgroup events,per pkg reads Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-06 22:00 ` [PATCH 11/12] perf/stat: fix bug in handling events in error state Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-06 22:00 ` [PATCH 12/12] perf/stat: revamp read error handling, snapshot and per_pkg events Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-17 17:31 ` [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-18 2:38 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-18 8:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-18 9:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-19 19:59 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-18 19:41 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-18 21:03 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-01-19 17:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-20 7:37 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-01-20 8:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-20 20:27 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-01-18 21:16 ` Yu, Fenghua
2017-01-19 2:09 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-01-19 16:58 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-01-19 17:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-19 2:21 ` Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-19 6:45 ` Stephane Eranian
2017-01-19 18:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-20 2:32 ` Vikas Shivappa
2017-01-20 7:58 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-01-20 13:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-20 20:11 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-01-20 21:08 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-20 21:44 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-01-20 23:51 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-02-08 10:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-23 9:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-01-23 11:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-01 20:08 ` Luck, Tony
2017-02-01 23:12 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-02-02 17:39 ` Luck, Tony
2017-02-02 19:33 ` Luck, Tony
2017-02-02 20:20 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-02-02 20:22 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-02-02 23:41 ` Luck, Tony
2017-02-03 1:40 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-02-03 2:14 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-02-03 17:52 ` Luck, Tony
2017-02-03 21:08 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-02-03 22:24 ` Luck, Tony
2017-02-07 8:08 ` Stephane Eranian
2017-02-07 18:52 ` Luck, Tony
2017-02-08 19:31 ` Stephane Eranian
2017-02-07 20:10 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-02-17 13:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-06 18:54 ` Luck, Tony
2017-02-06 21:22 ` Luck, Tony
2017-02-06 21:36 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-02-06 21:46 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-02-06 22:16 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-02-06 23:27 ` Luck, Tony
2017-02-07 0:33 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-02-02 0:35 ` Andi Kleen
2017-02-02 1:12 ` David Carrillo-Cisneros
2017-02-02 1:19 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2017-02-02 1:22 ` Yu, Fenghua
2017-02-02 17:51 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-02-08 10:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-20 20:40 ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-01-20 19:31 ` Stephane Eranian
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