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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>, Vince Weaver <vince@deater.net>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] perf/stat: Add --disable-hwdt
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:22:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170206122231.GA9404@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170206121506.mtknwusus4djp2sx@pd.tnic>


* Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> so I've been tracing recently on an AMD F15h which has those funky counter
> constraints and am seeing this:
> 
> # ./perf stat sleep 1
> 
>  Performance counter stats for 'sleep 1':
> 
>           0.749208      task-clock (msec)         #    0.001 CPUs utilized          
>                  1      context-switches          #    0.001 M/sec                  
>                  0      cpu-migrations            #    0.000 K/sec                  
>                 54      page-faults               #    0.072 M/sec                  
>          1,122,815      cycles                    #    1.499 GHz                    
>            286,740      stalled-cycles-frontend   #   25.54% frontend cycles idle   
>      <not counted>      stalled-cycles-backend                                        (0.00%)
>      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      <not counted>      instructions                                                  (0.00%)
>      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      <not counted>      branches                                                      (0.00%)
>      <not counted>      branch-misses                                                 (0.00%)
> 
>        1.001550070 seconds time elapsed
> 
> 
> The problem is that the HW watchdog thing is already taking up a
> counter so when perf stat uses the default counters and when we reach
> stalled-cycles-backend, we run out of counters for the remaining events.
> 
> So how about something like this:
> 
> # ./perf stat --disable-hwdt sleep 1
> 
>  Performance counter stats for 'sleep 1':
> 
>           0.782552      task-clock (msec)         #    0.001 CPUs utilized          
>                  1      context-switches          #    0.001 M/sec                  
>                  0      cpu-migrations            #    0.000 K/sec                  
>                 55      page-faults               #    0.070 M/sec                  
>          1,163,246      cycles                    #    1.486 GHz                    
>            293,598      stalled-cycles-frontend   #   25.24% frontend cycles idle   
>            400,017      stalled-cycles-backend    #   34.39% backend cycles idle    
>            676,505      instructions              #    0.58  insn per cycle         
>                                                   #    0.59  stalled cycles per insn
>            133,822      branches                  #  171.007 M/sec                  
>              7,319      branch-misses             #    5.47% of all branches        
> 
>        1.001660058 seconds time elapsed
> 
> We did explore other opportunities on IRC like sharing counters or
> making the HW WDT thing a 'soft' counter but all those are nasty and
> probably not really worth the trouble of touching perf core just so that
> this works.
> 
> Besides, future generations don't have those constraints anymore so it
> is only F15h.
> 
> Below is a silly patch as a syntactic sugar helper for perf stat. This
> is just an RFC anyway, I'll do it properly with fopen() if you're ok
> with the approach.

Looks sensible, and I'd in fact make this the new default behavior (if root runs 
perf stat) - i.e. add a flag to re-enable it, for the rare case where we want to 
debug a hard deadlock while running perf stat ...

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-06 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-06 12:15 [RFC PATCH] perf/stat: Add --disable-hwdt Borislav Petkov
2017-02-06 12:22 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2017-02-06 12:41   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-02-06 12:44     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-02-06 12:49       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-02-06 13:18         ` Robert Richter
2017-02-06 13:23           ` Borislav Petkov
2017-02-07  7:25             ` Ingo Molnar
2017-02-07 10:54               ` Borislav Petkov
2017-02-07 15:06                 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-02-11 17:03                   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-02-11 17:59                     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-02-11 18:32                       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-02-11 20:41                         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-07  7:21                         ` [tip:perf/core] perf stat: Issue a HW watchdog disable hint tip-bot for Borislav Petkov
2017-02-06 14:23           ` [RFC PATCH] perf/stat: Add --disable-hwdt Vince Weaver
2017-02-06 17:02             ` Borislav Petkov
2017-02-07  1:08         ` Borislav Petkov
2017-02-07  1:09           ` [PATCH 1/2] tools/lib/api/fs: Add procfs int read/write helpers Borislav Petkov
2017-02-07  1:43             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-02-07 10:30               ` Borislav Petkov
2017-02-07 15:00                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-02-07 15:08                   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-02-07 15:34                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-02-07  1:10           ` [PATCH 2/2] perf stat: Disable HW watchdog around a perf stat session Borislav Petkov
2017-02-07  1:45             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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