All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com>,
	Jitendra Kolhe <jitendra.kolhe@hpe.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] os: don't corrupt pre-existing memory-backend data with prealloc
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 12:12:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170224121217.GH2435@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170224092416.GE3702@redhat.com>

* Daniel P. Berrange (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:05:17AM +0100, Michal Privoznik wrote:
> > On 02/23/2017 01:07 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 01:05:33PM +0100, Michal Privoznik wrote:
> > >> On 02/23/2017 11:59 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > >>> When using a memory-backend object with prealloc turned on, QEMU
> > >>> will memset() the first byte in every memory page to zero. While
> > >>> this might have been acceptable for memory backends associated
> > >>> with RAM, this corrupts application data for NVDIMMs.
> > >>>
> > >>> Instead of setting every page to zero, read the current byte
> > >>> value and then just write that same value back, so we are not
> > >>> corrupting the original data.
> > >>>
> > >>> Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@redhat.com>
> > >>> ---
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm unclear if this is actually still safe in practice ? Is the
> > >>> compiler permitted to optimize away the read+write since it doesn't
> > >>> change the memory value. I'd hope not, but I've been surprised
> > >>> before...
> > >>>
> > >>> IMHO this is another factor in favour of requesting an API from
> > >>> the kernel to provide the prealloc behaviour we want.
> > >>>
> > >>>  util/oslib-posix.c | 3 ++-
> > >>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >>>
> > >>> diff --git a/util/oslib-posix.c b/util/oslib-posix.c
> > >>> index 35012b9..8f5b656 100644
> > >>> --- a/util/oslib-posix.c
> > >>> +++ b/util/oslib-posix.c
> > >>> @@ -355,7 +355,8 @@ void os_mem_prealloc(int fd, char *area, size_t memory, Error **errp)
> > >>>  
> > >>>          /* MAP_POPULATE silently ignores failures */
> > >>>          for (i = 0; i < numpages; i++) {
> > >>> -            memset(area + (hpagesize * i), 0, 1);
> > >>> +            char val = *(area + (hpagesize * i));
> > >>> +            memset(area + (hpagesize * i), 0, val);
> > >>
> > >> I think you wanted:
> > >>
> > >> memset(area + (hpagesize * i), val, 1);
> > >>
> > >> because what you are suggesting will overwrite even more than the first
> > >> byte with zeroes.
> > > 
> > > Lol, yes, I'm stupid.
> > > 
> > > Anyway, rather than repost this yet, I'm interested if this is actually
> > > the right way to fix the problem or if we should do something totally
> > > different....
> > 
> > So, I've done some analysis and if the optimizations are enabled, this
> > whole body is optimized away. Not the loop though. Here's what I've tested:
> > 
> > #include <stdio.h>
> > #include <stdlib.h>
> > #include <string.h>
> > 
> > int main(int argc, char *argv[])
> > {
> >     int ret = EXIT_FAILURE;
> >     unsigned char *ptr;
> >     size_t i, j;
> > 
> >     if (!(ptr = malloc(1024 * 4))) {
> >         perror("malloc");
> >         goto cleanup;
> >     }
> > 
> >     for (i = 0; i < 4; i++) {
> >         unsigned char val = ptr[i*1024];
> >         memset(ptr + i * 1024, val, 1);
> >     }
> > 
> >     ret = EXIT_SUCCESS;
> >  cleanup:
> >     free(ptr);
> >     return ret;
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > But if I make @val volatile, I can enforce the compiler to include the
> > body of the loop and actually read and write some bytes. BTW: if I
> > replace memset with *(ptr + i * 1024) = val; and don't make @val
> > volatile even the loop is optimized away.
> 
> Ok, yeah, it makes sense that the compiler can optimize that away without
> volatile. I wonder if adding volatile has much of a performance impact on
> this loop...

I don't think we have anything else in QEMU to do it (other than atomic's
but we don't need this to be atomic).   I don't think the use of memset()
helps, because the compiler is free to optimise that out as well; so
I think 'volatile' is a reasonable use (although I seem to have a soft-spot
for volatile and I know everyone else tells me I'm mad).

However, note the performance of this loop is important as shown by
Jitendra's recent patchset to parallelise it.
I wonder if MADV_WILLNEED makes any difference.

Dave

> Regards,
> Daniel
> -- 
> |: http://berrange.com      -o-    http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :|
> |: http://libvirt.org              -o-             http://virt-manager.org :|
> |: http://entangle-photo.org       -o-    http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :|
> 
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-24 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-23 10:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] os: don't corrupt pre-existing memory-backend data with prealloc Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-23 12:05 ` Michal Privoznik
2017-02-23 12:07   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-24  9:05     ` Michal Privoznik
2017-02-24  9:24       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-24 12:12         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2017-02-24 12:18           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-27 11:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-02-27 13:46   ` Rik van Riel
2017-02-27 13:58     ` Daniel P. Berrange
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-02-24 17:27 Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-24 17:33 ` no-reply
2017-02-27  9:25   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-24 19:04 ` Eric Blake
2017-02-27 13:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-02-27 15:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20170224121217.GH2435@work-vm \
    --to=dgilbert@redhat.com \
    --cc=berrange@redhat.com \
    --cc=jitendra.kolhe@hpe.com \
    --cc=mprivozn@redhat.com \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=stefanha@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.