From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm: better MWAIT emulation for guests
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 18:08:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170313180046-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170313154618.GA4547@potion>
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 04:46:20PM +0100, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> 2017-03-10 00:29+0200, Michael S. Tsirkin:
> > Some guests call mwait without checking the cpu flags. We currently
> > emulate that as a NOP but on VMX we can do better: let guest stop the
> > CPU until timer or IPI. CPU will be busy but that isn't any worse than
> > a NOP emulation.
> >
> > Note that mwait within guests is not the same as on real hardware
> > because you must halt if you want to go deep into sleep.
>
> SDM (25.3 CHANGES TO INSTRUCTION BEHAVIOR IN VMX NON-ROOT OPERATION)
> says that "MWAIT operates normally". What is the reason why MWAIT
> inside VMX cannot reach the same states as MWAIT outside VMX?
If you are going into a deep sleep state with huge latency you are
better off exiting and paying an extra microsecond latency
since a chance some other task will want to schedule seems higher.
> > Thus it isn't
> > a good idea to use the regular MWAIT flag in CPUID for that. Add a flag
> > in the hypervisor leaf instead.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > ---
> [...]
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/cpuid.c b/arch/x86/kvm/cpuid.c
> > @@ -594,6 +594,9 @@ static inline int __do_cpuid_ent(struct kvm_cpuid_entry2 *entry, u32 function,
> > + if (this_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_MWAIT))
> > + entry->eax = (1 << KVM_FEATURE_MWAIT);
>
> I'd rather not add it as a paravirt feature:
>
> - MWAIT requires the software to provide a target state, but we're not
> doing anything to expose those states.
Current linux guests just discover these states based on
CPU model, so we do expose enough info.
> The feature would need very constrained setup, which is hard to
> support
Why would it? It works without any tweaking on several boxes
I own.
> - we've had requests to support MWAIT emulation for Linux and fully
> emulating MWAIT would be best.
> MWAIT is not going to enabled by default, of course; it would be
> targeted at LPAR-like uses of KVM.
Yes I think this limited emulation is safe to enable by default.
Pretending mwait is equivalent to halt maybe isn't.
> What about keeping just the last hunk to improve OS X, for now?
>
> Thanks.
IMHO if we have a new functionality we are better of creating
some way for guests to discover it is there.
Do we really have to argue about a single bit in HV leaf?
What harm does it do?
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c
> > @@ -3547,13 +3547,9 @@ static __init int setup_vmcs_config(struct vmcs_config *vmcs_conf)
> > CPU_BASED_USE_IO_BITMAPS |
> > CPU_BASED_MOV_DR_EXITING |
> > CPU_BASED_USE_TSC_OFFSETING |
> > - CPU_BASED_MWAIT_EXITING |
> > - CPU_BASED_MONITOR_EXITING |
> > CPU_BASED_INVLPG_EXITING |
> > CPU_BASED_RDPMC_EXITING;
> >
> > - printk(KERN_ERR "cleared CPU_BASED_MWAIT_EXITING + CPU_BASED_MONITOR_EXITING\n");
> > -
> > opt = CPU_BASED_TPR_SHADOW |
> > CPU_BASED_USE_MSR_BITMAPS |
> > CPU_BASED_ACTIVATE_SECONDARY_CONTROLS;
> > --
> > MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-13 16:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-09 22:29 [PATCH] kvm: better MWAIT emulation for guests Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 0:51 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-10 1:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-13 7:44 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-10 23:46 ` Jim Mattson
2017-03-12 0:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-12 21:18 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-13 15:46 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-13 16:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-03-13 19:39 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-13 20:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-13 21:43 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-15 18:14 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-15 18:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-15 19:01 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-15 19:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-15 19:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-15 19:43 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-15 20:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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