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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG nohz]: wrong user and system time accounting
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:40:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170330124026.GA3626@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANRm+CwfTYJr4FRP5MaLCgc=_21rce9mdXm2UcWYFOU-AdZJNw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 09:58:44AM +0800, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> 2017-03-30 4:08 GMT+08:00 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>:
> >
> > In other words, the tick on cpu0 is aligned
> > with the tick on the nohz_full cpus, and
> > jiffies is advanced while the nohz_full cpus
> > with an active tick happen to be in kernel
> > mode?
> >
> > Frederic, can you think of any reason why
> > the tick on nohz_full CPUs would end up aligned
> > with the tick on cpu0, instead of running at some
> > random offset?
> >
> > A random offset, or better yet a somewhat randomized
> > tick length to make sure that simultaneous ticks are
> > fairly rare and the vtime sampling does not end up
> > "in phase" with the jiffies incrementing, could make
> > the accounting work right again.
> >
> > Of course, that assumes the above hypothesis is correct :)
> 
> There is such a feature skew_tick currently, refer to commit
> 5307c9556bc (tick: add tick skew boot option), w/ skew_tick=1 boot
> parameter, the bug disappear, however, the commit also mentioned that
> it will hurt power consumption.

Oh, I completely missed that!

> I will try Frederic's proposal which
> is similar to my original idea "how bad would it be to revert to
> sched_clock() instead of jiffies in vtime_delta()? We could use
> nanosecond granularity to check deltas but only perform an actual
> cputime update when that delta >= TICK_NSEC."

Thanks! I hope sched_clock() won't introduce too much overhead.
Otherwise we may want to pick up the skew_tick solution.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-30 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-23 20:55 [BUG nohz]: wrong user and system time accounting Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-24  0:56 ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-24  1:05   ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-24  1:08     ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-24  1:39       ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-27  5:33   ` lkml
2017-03-24  1:52 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-24  3:56   ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-27  1:56 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-27 17:35   ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-28  7:19     ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]     ` <20170328132406.7d23579c@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <20170328161454.4a5d9e8b@redhat.com>
2017-03-28 21:01         ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-28 21:26           ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-29  9:56             ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-29 12:56               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-28 21:24         ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-28 21:30           ` Luiz Capitulino
     [not found]       ` <20170329131656.1d6cb743@redhat.com>
2017-03-29 20:08         ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-29 22:54           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 12:57             ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-30  1:58           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 12:40             ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2017-03-30 13:19               ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30  4:27           ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30  6:47             ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 11:52               ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 12:33                 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30 13:38               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 13:59                 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 14:18                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 21:25                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-31 20:09                       ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-31 23:24                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-01  3:11                           ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-04-03 15:23                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-03 19:06                               ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-04-04 17:36                                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-04-05 14:26                                   ` Rik van Riel
2017-04-11 11:03                 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-04-11 11:36                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-11 11:43                     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-04-11 14:22               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-12 13:18                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-12 14:57                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-12 15:14                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-13  4:31                     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-04-13 13:32                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-05-02 10:01                         ` Wanpeng Li
2017-05-15  8:17                           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-06-29 17:22                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 12:51             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 13:02               ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-30 13:35                 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-04-03 14:40                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-04  7:32                     ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30 13:44                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]         ` <20170329221700.GB23895@lerouge>
2017-03-29 22:46           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30  2:14             ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-30 12:27               ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-27 18:38   ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-28  5:28     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-28 13:44       ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-29 13:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-29 13:14   ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-29 13:23     ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-29 21:12       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30  1:48         ` Luiz Capitulino

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