From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: arve@android.com, riandrews@android.com, tkjos@google.com,
devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] binder: Don't require the binder lock when killed in binder_thread_read()
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 21:29:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170331192944.GB9744@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170331175341.19889-1-dianders@chromium.org>
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:53:41AM -0700, Douglas Anderson wrote:
> Sometimes when we're out of memory the OOM killer decides to kill a
> process that's in binder_thread_read(). If we happen to be waiting
> for work we'll get the kill signal and wake up. That's good. ...but
> then we try to grab the binder lock before we return. That's bad.
>
> The problem is that someone else might be holding the one true global
> binder lock. If that one other process is blocked then we can't
> finish exiting. In the worst case, the other process might be blocked
> waiting for memory. In that case we'll have a really hard time
> exiting.
>
> On older kernels that don't have the OOM reaper (or something
> similar), like kernel 4.4, this is a really big problem and we end up
> with a simple deadlock because:
> * Once we pick a process to OOM kill we won't pick another--we first
> wait for the process we picked to die. The reasoning is that we've
> given the doomed process access to special memory pools so it can
> quit quickly and we don't have special pool memory to go around.
> * We don't have any type of "special access donation" that would give
> the mutex holder our special access.
>
> On kernel 4.4 w/ binder patches, we easily see this happen:
<snip>
How does your change interact with the recent "break up the binder big
lock" patchset:
https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/354698/
Have you tried that series out to see if it helps out any?
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-31 19:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-31 17:53 [RFC PATCH] binder: Don't require the binder lock when killed in binder_thread_read() Douglas Anderson
2017-03-31 19:29 ` Greg KH [this message]
2017-03-31 21:00 ` Doug Anderson
2017-04-01 6:48 ` Greg KH
2017-04-02 2:34 ` Doug Anderson
2017-04-03 13:25 ` Greg KH
2017-04-03 18:09 ` Doug Anderson
2017-04-04 7:40 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-04 15:10 ` Doug Anderson
2017-04-04 15:29 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-03 13:47 ` peter enderborg
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