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From: Dominick Grift <dac.override@gmail.com>
To: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] libsepol and checkpolicy: Add ability to expand some attributes in binary policy
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:29:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170411202945.GE2232@markus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABXk95D0rxRZSsYO0inJLb3ZZeqLkxz9FOTR+iJBV=GQTQdPfg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 08:06:07PM +0000, Jeffrey Vander Stoep wrote:
> Using this patchset with "-G" option - we no longer see preemption on
> slowpath policy lookups.

'Gen - Just removing auto-generated attributes: "-G"'

Forgive me if I am wrong but that then means that CIL will not optimize the policy to deal with the expansion of these -negation rules by using type attributes instead:

example:

allow { appdomain -isolated_app } rootfs:lnk_file r_file_perms;

Maybe android just has too many of these -negation rules. or maybe CIL can not deal with them optimally.

Anyhow: giving us the ability to tune these things seems like a good thing because not all policy is created equal (android has relatively few types but way more -negation and neverallow rules than refpolicy)

ie. fewer types but the the types have way more attributes associated with then (without using -G) due to all the -negation going on

However I am a little worried about the "new defaults" (I should test this patch with dssp2-standard)

> 
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:28 PM James Carter <jwcart2@tycho.nsa.gov> wrote:
> 
> On 04/11/2017 01:53 PM, James Carter wrote:
> > The number of type attributes included in the binary policy is becomming
> a performance issue in some cases.
> >
> > This patch set more aggressives removes attributes and gives the options
> to expand and remove all auto-generated attributes and all attributes with
> fewer than a given amount of attributes assigned.
> >
> > Comparison of the number of attributes remaining in the binary policy
> >      mls   normal  android
> > org  310     286     255
> > old  268     251     130
> > max  154      20      17
> > min  226     173     119
> > def  224     170      80
> > gen  221     170      46
> > u5   191     112      59
> >
> > Org - Number of attributes in the CIL policy
> > Old - Results without this patch set
> > Max - Remove the maximum number of attributes: "-G -X 9999"
> > Min - Remove the minimum number of attributes: "-X 0"
> > Def - The new defaults for CIL
> > Gen - Just removing auto-generated attributes: "-G"
> > U5  - Remove attributes with less than five members: "-X 5"
> >
> >
> 
> In case you are interested in sizes:
> 
>         mls  normal  android
> old   2.1M   2.0M     113K
> max  68.3M  63.4M    5041K
> min   2.1M   2.0M     122K
> def   2.1M   2.0M     115K
> gen   2.2M   2.0M     136K
> u5    2.2M   2.0M     116K
> 
> I would not recommend expanding all attributes.
> 
> Jim
> 
> > James Carter (2):
> >   libsepol/cil: Add ability to expand some attributes in binary policy
> >   secilc: Add options to control the expansion of attributes
> >
> >  libsepol/cil/include/cil/cil.h     |   2 +
> >  libsepol/cil/src/cil.c             |  12 ++
> >  libsepol/cil/src/cil_binary.c      | 253
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> >  libsepol/cil/src/cil_internal.h    |   7 +-
> >  libsepol/cil/src/cil_post.c        |  32 +++--
> >  libsepol/cil/src/cil_resolve_ast.c |  25 ++--
> >  libsepol/src/libsepol.map.in       |   2 +
> >  secilc/secil2conf.c                |   2 +
> >  secilc/secilc.8.xml                |  10 ++
> >  secilc/secilc.c                    |  31 ++++-
> >  10 files changed, 275 insertions(+), 101 deletions(-)
> >
> 
> 
> --
> James Carter <jwcart2@tycho.nsa.gov>
> National Security Agency
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-11 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-11 17:53 [PATCH 0/2] libsepol and checkpolicy: Add ability to expand some attributes in binary policy James Carter
2017-04-11 17:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] libsepol/cil: " James Carter
2017-04-11 18:37   ` Dominick Grift
2017-04-11 18:46     ` Dominick Grift
2017-04-11 19:17       ` James Carter
2017-04-11 19:33         ` Dominick Grift
2017-04-11 19:37           ` Dominick Grift
2017-04-11 19:13     ` James Carter
2017-04-12 17:27   ` Jeffrey Vander Stoep
2017-04-11 17:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] secilc: Add options to control the expansion of attributes James Carter
2017-04-11 20:31   ` Nicolas Iooss
2017-04-12 13:02     ` James Carter
2017-04-11 19:27 ` [PATCH 0/2] libsepol and checkpolicy: Add ability to expand some attributes in binary policy James Carter
2017-04-11 20:06   ` Jeffrey Vander Stoep
2017-04-11 20:29     ` Dominick Grift [this message]
2017-04-12  6:11 ` Dominick Grift
2017-04-12 13:26   ` James Carter
2017-04-12 13:35     ` James Carter
2017-04-12 14:07       ` Dominick Grift
2017-04-12 13:35     ` Dominick Grift
2017-04-12 18:20       ` James Carter
2017-04-12 19:12         ` Dominick Grift
2017-04-12 20:07           ` James Carter
2017-04-12 20:16             ` Dominick Grift

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