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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com, lvivier@redhat.com,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Postcopy: Force allocation of all-zero precopy pages
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:20:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170427032037.GE26792@pxdev.xzpeter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170426193743.GF3508@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 09:37:43PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:04:43PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Christian Borntraeger (borntraeger@de.ibm.com) wrote:
> > > On 04/26/2017 08:37 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git) wrote:
> > > > From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
> > > > 
> > > > When an all-zero page is received during the precopy
> > > > phase of a postcopy-enabled migration we must force
> > > > allocation otherwise accesses to the page will still
> > > > get blocked by userfault.
> > > > 
> > > > Symptom:
> > > >   a) If the page is accessed by a device during device-load
> > > >     then we get a deadlock as the source finishes sending
> > > >     all its pages but the destination device-load is still
> > > >     paused and so doesn't clean up.
> > > > 
> > > >   b) If the page is accessed later, then the thread will stay
> > > >     paused until the end of migration rather than carrying on
> > > >     running, until we release userfault at the end.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
> > > > Reported-by: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
> > > 
> > > CC stable? after all the guest hangs on both sides
> > > 
> > > Has survived 40 migrations (usually failed at the 2nd)
> > > Tested-by: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
> > 
> > Great...but.....
> > Andrea (added to the mail) says this shouldn't be necessary.
> > The read we were doing in the is_zero_range() should have been sufficient
> > to get the page mapped and that zero page should have survived.
> > 
> > So - I guess that's back a step, we need to figure out why the
> > page disapepars for you.
> 
> Yes reading during precopy is enough to fill the hole and prevent
> userfault missing faults to trigger.
> 
> Somehow the pagetable must be mapped by a zeropage or a hugezeropage
> or a regular page allocated during a previous precopy pass or a
> pre-zeroed subpage part of a THP.
> 
> Even if the hugezeropage is splitted later by a MADV_DONTNEED with
> postcopy starts, they will become 4k zeropages.
> 
> After a read succeeds, nothing (except MADV_DONTNEED or other explicit
> syscalls which qemu would need to invoke explicitly between
> is_zero_range and UFFDIO_REGISTER) should be able to bring the
> pagetable back to its "pte_none/pmd_none" state that will then trigger
> missing userfaults during postcopy later.

No matter what finally the solution would be (after see Juan's
comment, I am curious about whether is_zero_page() behaves differently
in power now)... Dave, would it worth mentioning in
ram_handle_compressed() about this read side-effect? Otherwise imho it
might be hard for many people to quickly notice this.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-27  3:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-26 18:37 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Postcopy fix and traces Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-04-26 18:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Postcopy: Force allocation of all-zero precopy pages Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-04-26 19:00   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-04-26 19:04     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-04-26 19:37       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-04-27  3:20         ` Peter Xu [this message]
2017-04-27  6:44           ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-04-27 13:47             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-04-28 13:19               ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-04-28 14:24                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-04-26 19:52       ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-04-26 19:54         ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-04-26 19:35   ` Juan Quintela
2017-04-27  8:03     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-04-26 18:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] migration: Extra tracing Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-04-26 18:48   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-05-02 13:17   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-05-04  8:40   ` Juan Quintela

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