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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Huang,
	Ying" <ying.huang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Andrea Arcangeli
	<aarcange-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Ebru Akagunduz
	<ebru.akagunduz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Shaohua Li <shli-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm -v10 1/3] mm, THP, swap: Delay splitting THP during swap out
Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 12:44:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170501104430.GA16306@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170428084044.GB19510@bbox>

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 05:40:44PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> However, get_swap_page is ugly now. The caller should take care of
> failure and should retry after split. I hope get_swap_page includes
> split and retry logic in itself without reling on the caller.

I think this makes the interface terrible. It's an allocation function
to which you pass a reference object for size - and if the allocation
doesn't succeed it'll split your reference object to make it fit?

That's a nasty side effect for this function to have.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Ebru Akagunduz <ebru.akagunduz@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm -v10 1/3] mm, THP, swap: Delay splitting THP during swap out
Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 12:44:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170501104430.GA16306@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170428084044.GB19510@bbox>

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 05:40:44PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> However, get_swap_page is ugly now. The caller should take care of
> failure and should retry after split. I hope get_swap_page includes
> split and retry logic in itself without reling on the caller.

I think this makes the interface terrible. It's an allocation function
to which you pass a reference object for size - and if the allocation
doesn't succeed it'll split your reference object to make it fit?

That's a nasty side effect for this function to have.

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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Ebru Akagunduz <ebru.akagunduz@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm -v10 1/3] mm, THP, swap: Delay splitting THP during swap out
Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 12:44:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170501104430.GA16306@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170428084044.GB19510@bbox>

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 05:40:44PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> However, get_swap_page is ugly now. The caller should take care of
> failure and should retry after split. I hope get_swap_page includes
> split and retry logic in itself without reling on the caller.

I think this makes the interface terrible. It's an allocation function
to which you pass a reference object for size - and if the allocation
doesn't succeed it'll split your reference object to make it fit?

That's a nasty side effect for this function to have.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-01 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-25 12:56 [PATCH -mm -v10 0/3] THP swap: Delay splitting THP during swapping out Huang, Ying
2017-04-25 12:56 ` Huang, Ying
2017-04-25 12:56 ` [PATCH -mm -v10 1/3] mm, THP, swap: Delay splitting THP during swap out Huang, Ying
2017-04-25 12:56   ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]   ` <20170425125658.28684-2-ying.huang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-27  5:31     ` Minchan Kim
2017-04-27  5:31       ` Minchan Kim
2017-04-27  5:31       ` Minchan Kim
2017-04-27  7:12       ` Huang, Ying
2017-04-27  7:12         ` Huang, Ying
2017-04-27  7:12         ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]         ` <87mvb21fz1.fsf-5/hDr2MS57EDqwDYnZuMFFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-27 13:37           ` Johannes Weiner
2017-04-27 13:37             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-04-27 13:37             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-04-28  8:40         ` Minchan Kim
2017-04-28  8:40           ` Minchan Kim
2017-04-28 12:21           ` Huang, Ying
2017-04-28 12:21             ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]             ` <87d1bwvi26.fsf-5/hDr2MS57EDqwDYnZuMFFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-10  1:03               ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-10  1:03                 ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-10  1:03                 ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-01 10:44           ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2017-05-01 10:44             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-05-01 10:44             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-05-01 23:53             ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-01 23:53               ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-01 23:53               ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-10 13:56               ` Johannes Weiner
2017-05-10 13:56                 ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                 ` <20170510135654.GD17121-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-10 23:25                   ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-10 23:25                     ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-10 23:25                     ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-11  0:50                     ` Huang, Ying
2017-05-11  0:50                       ` Huang, Ying
2017-05-11  0:50                       ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]                       ` <87h90sb4jq.fsf-5/hDr2MS57EDqwDYnZuMFFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-11  4:31                         ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-11  4:31                           ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-11  4:31                           ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-12  2:21                       ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: swap: unify swap slot free functions to put_swap_page Minchan Kim
2017-05-12  2:21                         ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-12  2:21                         ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: swap: move anonymous THP split logic to vmscan Minchan Kim
2017-05-12  2:21                           ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-12 16:48                           ` Johannes Weiner
2017-05-12 16:48                             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-05-12 16:47                         ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: swap: unify swap slot free functions to put_swap_page Johannes Weiner
2017-05-12 16:47                           ` Johannes Weiner
2017-05-11  1:22                     ` [PATCH -mm -v10 1/3] mm, THP, swap: Delay splitting THP during swap out Minchan Kim
2017-05-11  1:22                       ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-11 10:40                       ` Johannes Weiner
2017-05-11 10:40                         ` Johannes Weiner
2017-05-12  1:34                         ` Minchan Kim
2017-05-12  1:34                           ` Minchan Kim
2017-04-25 12:56 ` [PATCH -mm -v10 2/3] mm, THP, swap: Check whether THP can be split firstly Huang, Ying
2017-04-25 12:56   ` Huang, Ying
2017-04-25 21:43   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-04-25 21:43     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-04-25 12:56 ` [PATCH -mm -v10 3/3] mm, THP, swap: Enable THP swap optimization only if has compound map Huang, Ying
2017-04-25 12:56   ` Huang, Ying
2017-04-25 21:46   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-04-25 21:46     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-04-28 13:16     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-04-28 13:16       ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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