From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>
Cc: perfbook@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Q] Heisenbug and anti-heisenbug
Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 19:47:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170503024719.GK3956@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61b85306-48c8-d90d-b6a0-e56dbe1b75a3@gmail.com>
On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 09:23:11AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote:
> On 2017/05/03 09:09:37 +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > While reviewing your recent update in "Hunting Heisenbugs" section,
> > I found the analogy with particle physics didn't sit well with me.
> >
> > "Heisenbug" is defined as:
> >
> >> attempts to track down the heisenbug causes it to radically change
> >> its symptoms or even disappear completely.
> >
> > "Anti-heisenbug" is introduced as:
> >
> >> Fortunately, particle physics is up to the task: Why not create
> >> an anti-heisenbug to annihilate the heisenbug?
> >
> > At this point, "anti-heisenbug" seems to mean a patch that fixes
> > the heisenbug.
> >
> > The use of anti-something in particle physics does not go along
> > with this usage.
> >
> > For example, antiproton is an antiparticle of proton.
> > antiproton has mostly the same property as proton,
> > with the exception of electric charge and magnetic moment.
> > Also, an antiproton and an antielectron (positron) can compose
> > an antihydrogen atom. Well, I'm sure you know all about this.
> >
> > So, if you employ this line of reasoning, an anti-heisenbug should
> > also be a bug with something opposite in nature.
> >
> > If a heisenbug is a bug which vanishes when it is being tracked down,
> > an anti-heisenbug would be a bug which only emerges when it (or
> > something else) is being tracked down.
> >
> > However, it is not obvious you can create an anti-heisenbug for
> > a particular heisenbug so that when the two are combined, the symptoms
> > of both bugs to "annihilate".
> >
> > So I'm wondering "What was Paul's intention in using the word 'annihilate'?".
> >
> > In Section "Add Delay", anti-heisenbug is used as:
> >
> >> Once you spot a bug involving a race condition, it is frequently
> >> possible to create an anti-heisenbug by adding delay in this manner.
> >
> > This "anti-heisenbug" is not a bug, rather, it is a means to increase
> > the possibility of a given heisenbug to appear.
> >
>
> Oops, I sent this prematurely.
> But you might be able to see my point here.
>
> This is not an important question, so please give it a look when you have
> done with whatever issue you are working on.
I freely admit that I am taking a fair amount of "poetic license" here. ;-)
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-03 2:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-03 0:09 [Q] Heisenbug and anti-heisenbug Akira Yokosawa
2017-05-03 0:23 ` Akira Yokosawa
2017-05-03 2:47 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2017-05-03 8:14 ` Akira Yokosawa
2017-05-03 14:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-05-07 0:23 ` Akira Yokosawa
2017-05-08 3:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-05-08 15:06 ` Akira Yokosawa
2017-05-08 15:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
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