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From: Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>, Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 0/8] Introduce bpf ID
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 12:00:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170601120038.680c8169@cakuba.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5e8b1713-0220-5c53-210d-8040efd36cfb@gmail.com>

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 12:52:28 -0600, David Ahern wrote:
> On 6/1/17 12:27 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > 'I want to retrieve original instructions' is not a problem. It's a
> > push for 'solution'. Explaining 'why' you want to see original
> > instructions would describe the actual problem.  
> 
> I have explained this.
> 
> You are creating this hyper-complex almost completely invisible
> infrastructure. You are enabling binary blobs that can bypass the
> network stack and modify packets with almost no introspection on what is
> happening. BPF code can from a variety of sources -- OS vendors,
> upstream repos, 3rd party vendors (eg., H/W vendors), and "in-house"
> development. Each will swear to the end that any observed problem is not
> with their code. In my experience, it falls on to the OS and kernel
> experts to figure out why Linux is breaking something. To do that we
> need tools to look at what code is running where and something that can
> be used in production environments not requiring a disruption to the
> service that the box is providing.

Forgive my ignorance, but is it possible to dump code of a loaded
module out of the kernel?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-01 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-31 18:58 [PATCH v2 net-next 0/8] Introduce bpf ID Martin KaFai Lau
2017-05-31 18:58 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 1/8] bpf: Introduce bpf_prog ID Martin KaFai Lau
2017-05-31 18:58 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 2/8] bpf: Introduce bpf_map ID Martin KaFai Lau
2017-05-31 18:58 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 3/8] bpf: Add BPF_(PROG|MAP)_GET_NEXT_ID command Martin KaFai Lau
2017-05-31 18:58 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 4/8] bpf: Add BPF_PROG_GET_FD_BY_ID Martin KaFai Lau
2017-05-31 18:58 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 5/8] bpf: Add BPF_MAP_GET_FD_BY_ID Martin KaFai Lau
2017-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 6/8] bpf: Add jited_len to struct bpf_prog Martin KaFai Lau
2017-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 7/8] bpf: Add BPF_OBJ_GET_INFO_BY_FD Martin KaFai Lau
2017-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 8/8] bpf: Test for bpf ID Martin KaFai Lau
2017-05-31 23:35 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 0/8] Introduce " David Miller
2017-06-03  1:08   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2017-06-01  2:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-06-01 13:55   ` David Ahern
2017-06-01 17:24     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-06-01 17:51       ` David Ahern
2017-06-01 18:27         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-06-01 18:33           ` David Miller
2017-06-01 18:57             ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-06-01 18:52           ` David Ahern
2017-06-01 18:56             ` David Miller
2017-06-01 19:00             ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2017-06-01 21:48             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-06-02 11:39               ` David Ahern

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