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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>,
	ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk redesign
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:48:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170624234805.GT10672@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzQyfVnj2mhsZGsOVP7FEc4g7vguGCtkyGy1cMONPeitw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 04:26:42PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
> > This assumes timestamps are fine grained enough. I still prefer a
> > sequence number in addition.
> 
> Guyes, you're overdesigning.
> 
> The general old printk subsystem had "continuations". Nobody ever used
> them. Nobody. I know, because they were broken, and nobody even
> reported it.
> 
> Similarly, nobody is going to use sequence numbers and timestamps.
> What *is* going to get used is digital cameras to take pictures of a
> screen, and "dmesg" output (and no, dmesg will not use those sequence
> numbers either, see above).

I'd really hate to have to use pictures of screen...  I really hope that
printk to serial console keeps working - I don't care about timestamps
granularity, etc., but losing this would hurt.  Is it really that
uncommon use case?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-25  1:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-19  5:21 [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk redesign Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19  6:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 14:39   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 15:20     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 15:54       ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 16:17         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 16:23         ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 15:58           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:44             ` Luck, Tony
2017-06-20 17:11               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 17:27                 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 23:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21  7:17                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-21 11:12                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 14:06                       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-23  5:43                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 13:09                           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 12:23                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 14:18                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:46                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 16:09                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:49                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19  7:35                   ` David Woodhouse
2017-07-20  7:53                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:09         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 16:26       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 16:35         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 11:14         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-24 14:06           ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 22:42             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-24 23:21               ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 23:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-24 23:40                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-26 11:16                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-24 23:48                   ` Al Viro [this message]
2017-06-25  1:29                     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-25  2:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-26  8:46                         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-07-19  7:59                           ` David Woodhouse
2017-06-20 15:56     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 18:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-21  9:29       ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 10:15       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 13:42         ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-22 13:48           ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-22 13:48             ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-23  9:07             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2017-06-23  9:07               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2017-06-27 13:06               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-27 13:06                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23  5:20           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 23:46 ` Josh Triplett
2017-06-20  8:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-06-20 14:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-20 15:26       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 16:35 ` David Howells
2017-07-19  6:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  6:25   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  7:26     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-07-20  5:19       ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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