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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juneho Choi <juno.choi@lge.com>,
	kernel-team <kernel-team@lge.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/7] writeback incompressible pages to storage
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 17:47:26 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170629084726.GB22335@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170628154157.GA528@tigerII.localdomain>

Hi Sergey,

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 12:41:57AM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On (06/26/17 15:52), Minchan Kim wrote:
> [..]
> > zRam is useful for memory saving with compressible pages but sometime,
> > workload can be changed and system has lots of incompressible pages
> > which is very harmful for zram.
> 
> could do. that makes zram quite complicated, to be honest. no offense,
> but the whole zram's "good compression" margin looks to me completely
> random and quite unreasonable. building a complex logic atop of random
> logic is a bit tricky. but I see what problem you are trying to address.
> 
> > This patch supports writeback feature of zram so admin can set up
> > a block device and with it, zram can save the memory via writing
> > out the incompressile pages once it found it's incompressible pages
> > (1/4 comp ratio) instead of keeping the page in memory.
> 
> hm, alternative idea. just an idea. can we try compressing the page
> with another algorithm? example: downcast from lz4 to zlib? we can
> set up a fallback "worst case" algorithm, so each entry can contain
> additional flag that would tell if the src page was compressed with
> the fast or slow algorithm. that sounds to me easier than "create a
> new block device and bond it to zram, etc". but I may be wrong.

We tried it although it was static not dynamic adatation you suggested.
However problem was media-stream data so zlib, lzam added just pointless
overhead.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-29  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-26  6:52 [PATCH v1 0/7] writeback incompressible pages to storage Minchan Kim
2017-06-26  6:52 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] zram: clean up duplicated codes in __zram_bvec_write Minchan Kim
2017-06-26  6:53 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] zram: inlining zram_compress Minchan Kim
2017-06-26  6:53 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] zram: rename zram_decompress_page with __zram_bvec_read Minchan Kim
2017-06-26  6:53 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] zram: add interface to specify backing device Minchan Kim
2017-06-26  6:53 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] zram: add free space management in " Minchan Kim
2017-06-26  6:53 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] zram: identify asynchronous IO's return value Minchan Kim
2017-06-26  6:53 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] zram: write incompressible pages to backing device Minchan Kim
2017-06-26  6:53 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] zram: read page from " Minchan Kim
2017-06-26  6:53 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] zram: add config and doc file for writeback feature Minchan Kim
2017-06-28 15:41 ` [PATCH v1 0/7] writeback incompressible pages to storage Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-29  8:47   ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2017-06-29  9:17     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-29  9:29       ` Minchan Kim

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