From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>,
Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3] hw/i386: Deprecate the machines pc-0.10 to pc-1.2
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 03:47:01 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170713034617-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c737365b-61bc-3983-f923-7ee0737012e8@redhat.com>
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 02:30:06AM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 07/12/17 10:22, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > We don't want to carry along old machine types forever. If we are able to
> > remove the pc machines up to 0.13 one day for example, this would allow
> > us to eventually kill the code for rombar=0 (i.e. where QEMU copies ROM
> > BARs directly to low memory). Everything up to pc-1.2 is also known to
> > have issues with migration. So let's start with a deprecation message
> > for the old machine types so that the (hopefully) few users of these old
> > systems start switching over to newer machine types instead.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > Note: Even if we mark all these old machines as deprecated, this ofcourse
> > doesn't mean that we also have to remove them all at once later when we
> > decide to finally really remove some. We could then also start by removing
> > 0.10 and 0.11 only, for example (since there should really be no users left
> > for these), or only up to 0.13 (to be able to kill rombar=0).
>
> On a tangent: "rombar=0" shouldn't be killed before the libvirt domain
> XML regains the ability to say, "don't load any oprom for this device".
> Please see <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1425058>.
>
> (Please note that it is not lost on me that rombar=0 is a poor
> substitute for romfile='', but currently rombar=0 is the only fallback
> through libvirt. See the BZ pls.)
>
> Thanks
> Laszlo
rombar=0 would start meaning "no ROM", not "no BAR but still add a
rom".
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-12 8:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3] hw/i386: Deprecate the machines pc-0.10 to pc-1.2 Thomas Huth
2017-07-12 13:31 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-07-12 14:51 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-12 15:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-12 20:15 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-12 20:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-12 20:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-12 22:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 0:23 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-13 0:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 0:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 15:17 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-13 15:34 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-13 22:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 15:40 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-13 15:24 ` Eric Blake
2017-07-12 15:45 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-07-12 17:48 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-12 15:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-12 16:00 ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-12 16:12 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-12 16:23 ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-12 16:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-12 16:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-12 16:29 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-12 20:37 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-13 23:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 16:33 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-12 20:26 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-13 0:30 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-13 0:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-07-13 1:02 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-13 1:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 15:20 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-13 23:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 5:37 ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-14 9:50 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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