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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
To: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL for 4.14] Stream control documentation
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 12:57:57 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170809125757.57cd8d2b@vento.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170809122917.0461db2c@vento.lan>

Em Wed, 9 Aug 2017 12:29:17 -0300
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com> escreveu:

> Em Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:03:40 +0300
> Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi> escreveu:
> 
> > Hi Mauro,
> > 
> > Add stream control documentation.
> > 
> > We have recently added support for hardware that makes it possible to have
> > pipelines that are controlled by more than two drivers. This necessitates
> > documenting V4L2 stream control behaviour for such pipelines.  
> 
> Perhaps I missed this one, but I'm not seeing any e-mail with
> 	"docs-rst: media: Document s_stream() video op usage"
> 
> Please always submit patches via e-mail too, as it makes easier for
> us to comment/review when needed.
> 
> In any case, I'm appending the patch contents here. I'll reply to it
> on a next e-mail.
> 
> > From ef8e5d20b45b05290c56450d2130a0dc3c021c5a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
> > Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 15:07:57 +0200
> > Subject: docs-rst: media: Document s_stream() video op usage
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > Cc: Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
> >     Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
> > 
> > As we begin to add support for systems with media pipelines controlled by
> > more than one device driver, it is essential that we precisely define the
> > responsibilities of each component in the stream control and common
> > practices.

Not sure what you meant here. Currently, there is support already
for multiple subdevs attached to a driver.

As we're talking here about kAPI, it is quite common that a V4L2 the
need to set multiple devices while stream. A typical non-MC device like
bttv can set up to 4 types of devices:
	- tuner;
	- audio decoder;
	- video decoder;
	- video enhancers.

> > Specifically, this patch documents two things:
> > 
> > 1) streaming control is done per sub-device and sub-device drivers
> > themselves are responsible for streaming setup in upstream sub-devices and

In the case of non-MC devices, it is the bridge driver that it is
responsible to pass a "broadcast" message to all subdevices for
them to be at "stream mode".

> > 
> > 2) broken frames should be tolerated at streaming stop. It is the
> > responsibility of the sub-device driver to stop the transmitter after
> > itself if it cannot handle broken frames (and it should be probably be
> > done anyway).

You should define what you mean by "transmitter".

> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
> > Acked-by: Niklas Söderlund <niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/media/kapi/v4l2-subdev.rst | 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 36 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/media/kapi/v4l2-subdev.rst b/Documentation/media/kapi/v4l2-subdev.rst
> > index e1f0b726e438..100ffc783f72 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/media/kapi/v4l2-subdev.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/media/kapi/v4l2-subdev.rst
> > @@ -262,6 +262,42 @@ is called. After all subdevices have been located the .complete() callback is
> >  called. When a subdevice is removed from the system the .unbind() method is
> >  called. All three callbacks are optional.
> >  
> > +Streaming control
> > +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > +
> > +Starting and stopping the stream are somewhat complex operations that
> > +often require walking the media graph to enable streaming on
> > +sub-devices which the pipeline consists of. This involves interaction
> > +between multiple drivers, sometimes more than two.
> > +
> > +The ``.s_stream()`` op in :c:type:`v4l2_subdev_video_ops` is responsible
> > +for starting and stopping the stream on the sub-device it is called on.
> > +Additionally, if there are sub-devices further up in the pipeline, i.e.
> > +connected to that sub-device's sink pads through enabled links, the
> > +sub-device driver must call the ``.s_stream()`` video op of all such
> > +sub-devices. The sub-device driver is thus in control of whether the
> > +upstream sub-devices start (or stop) streaming before or after the
> > +sub-device itself is set up for streaming.

Why the sub-device? Even in the MC case, the stream on operation is
usually called via the v4l devnode, where the DMA engine is.

> > +
> > +.. note::
> > +
> > +   As the ``.s_stream()`` callback is called recursively through the
> > +   sub-devices along the pipeline, it is important to keep the
> > +   recursion as short as possible. To this end, drivers are encouraged
> > +   not to internally call ``.s_stream()`` recursively in order to make
> > +   only a single additional recursion per driver in the pipeline. This
> > +   greatly reduces stack usage.

what "drivers" are encouraged not to ...?

> > +
> > +Stopping the transmitter
> > +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What is a transmitter? There are only two places inside kAPI that
uses the word "transmitter":
	Documentation/media/kapi/cec-core.rst
	Documentation/media/kapi/csi2.rst

On both documents, the meaning of the term is clear, but I can't
understand what you mean by "transmitter" at the subdev's core
documentation. Is it the tuner? the bridge driver? a CSI bus?
the DMA engine? all of them?

> > +
> > +A transmitter stops sending the stream of images as a result of
> > +calling the ``.s_stream()`` callback. Some transmitters may stop the
> > +stream at a frame boundary whereas others stop immediately,
> > +effectively leaving the current frame unfinished. The receiver driver
> > +should not make assumptions either way, but function properly in both
> > +cases.
> > +
> >  V4L2 sub-device userspace API
> >  -----------------------------
> >  
> > -- 
> > 2.13.3
> >   
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mauro



Thanks,
Mauro

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-09 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-09  8:03 [GIT PULL for 4.14] Stream control documentation Sakari Ailus
2017-08-09 15:29 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-08-09 15:35   ` Sakari Ailus
2017-08-09 15:59     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-08-09 15:57   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2017-08-10 11:11     ` Hans Verkuil
2017-08-11  9:17     ` Sakari Ailus

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