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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, maxime.coquelin@redhat.com,
	a.perevalov@samsung.com, mst@redhat.com,
	marcandre.lureau@redhat.com
Cc: quintela@redhat.com, peterx@redhat.com, lvivier@redhat.com,
	aarcange@redhat.com, felipe@nutanix.com
Subject: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 32/32] postcopy shared docs
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:27:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170824192730.8440-33-dgilbert@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170824192730.8440-1-dgilbert@redhat.com>

From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>

Add some notes to the migration documentation for shared memory
postcopy.

Signed-off-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
---
 docs/devel/migration.txt | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 39 insertions(+)

diff --git a/docs/devel/migration.txt b/docs/devel/migration.txt
index 1b940a829b..d4c344c671 100644
--- a/docs/devel/migration.txt
+++ b/docs/devel/migration.txt
@@ -553,3 +553,42 @@ Postcopy now works with hugetlbfs backed memory:
      hugepages works well, however 1GB hugepages are likely to be problematic
      since it takes ~1 second to transfer a 1GB hugepage across a 10Gbps link,
      and until the full page is transferred the destination thread is blocked.
+
+=== Postcopy with shared memory ===
+
+Postcopy migration with shared memory needs explicit support from the other
+processes that share memory and from QEMU. There are restrictions on the type of
+memory that userfault can support shared.
+
+The Linux kernel userfault support works on /dev/shm memory and on hugetlbfs
+(although the kernel doesn't provide an equivalent to madvise(MADV_DONTNEED)
+for hugetlbfs which may be a problem in some configurations).
+
+The vhost-user code in QEMU supports clients that have Postcopy support,
+and the vhost-user-bridge (in tests/) and the DPDK package have changes
+to support postcopy.
+
+The client needs to open a userfaultfd and register the areas
+of memory that it maps with userfault.  The client must then pass the
+userfaultfd back to QEMU together with a mapping table that allows
+fault addresses in the clients address space to be converted back to
+RAMBlock/offsets.  The client's userfaultfd is added to the postcopy
+fault-thread and page requests are made on behalf of the client by QEMU.
+QEMU performs 'wake' operations on the client's userfaultfd to allow it
+to continue after a page has arrived.
+
+  Note: There are two future improvements that would be nice:
+    a) Some way to make QEMU ignorant of the addresses in the clients
+      address space
+    b) Avoiding the need for QEMU to perform ufd-wake calls after the
+      pages have arrived
+
+Retro-fitting postcopy to existing clients is possible:
+  a) A mechanism is needed for the registration with userfault as above,
+     and the registration needs to be coordinated with the phases of
+     postcopy.  In vhost-user extra messages are added to the existing
+     control channel.
+  b) Any thread that can block due to guest memory accesses must be
+     identified and the implication understood; for example if the
+     guest memory access is made while holding a lock then all other
+     threads waiting for that lock will also be blocked.
-- 
2.13.5

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-24 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2017-08-24 19:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 00/32] postcopy+vhost-user/shared ram Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-24 19:26   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 01/32] vhu: vu_queue_started Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-24 23:10     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-08-25 14:58       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-30 13:02     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-30 13:13       ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-05 12:58         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-05 13:01           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 02/32] vhub: Only process received packets on started queues Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30  9:59     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 03/32] migrate: Update ram_block_discard_range for shared Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-29  5:30     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-18 12:18       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 04/32] qemu_ram_block_host_offset Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-25 12:11     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-08-25 15:28       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-29  5:36     ` Peter Xu
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 05/32] migration/ram: ramblock_recv_bitmap_test_byte_offset Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 06/32] postcopy: use UFFDIO_ZEROPAGE only when available Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30  9:57     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-07 10:55       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 07/32] postcopy: Add notifier chain Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-29  6:02     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-11 17:00       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 08/32] postcopy: Add vhost-user flag for postcopy and check it Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-29  6:22     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-13 14:34       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 09/32] vhost-user: Add 'VHOST_USER_POSTCOPY_ADVISE' message Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30 10:07     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-07 11:04       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 10/32] vhub: Support sending fds back to qemu Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30 10:22     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-07 11:31       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 11/32] vhub: Open userfaultfd Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-29  6:40     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-15 17:33       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-30 10:30     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-07 16:36       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 12/32] postcopy: Allow registering of fd handler Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 13/32] vhost+postcopy: Register shared ufd with postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 14/32] vhost+postcopy: Transmit 'listen' to client Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30 10:37     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-07 12:10       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 15/32] vhost+postcopy: Register new regions with the ufd Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30 10:42     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-08 14:50       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 16/32] vhost+postcopy: Send address back to qemu Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-29  8:30     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-12 17:15       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-13  4:29         ` Peter Xu
2017-09-13 12:15           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-15  8:57             ` Peter Xu
2017-09-15 15:32               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-18  9:31               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 17/32] vhost+postcopy: Stash RAMBlock and offset Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30  5:51     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-13 15:59       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 18/32] vhost+postcopy: Send requests to source for shared pages Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 19/32] vhost+postcopy: Resolve client address Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30  5:28     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-11 11:58       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-13  5:18         ` Peter Xu
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 20/32] postcopy: wake shared Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 21/32] postcopy: postcopy_notify_shared_wake Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 22/32] vhost+postcopy: Add vhost waker Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30  5:55     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-13 13:09       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-18  3:57         ` Peter Xu
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 23/32] vhost+postcopy: Call wakeups Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 24/32] vub+postcopy: madvises Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30 10:48     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-07 12:30       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 25/32] vhost+postcopy: Lock around set_mem_table Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30  6:50     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-25 17:56       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 26/32] vhost: Add VHOST_USER_POSTCOPY_END message Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30  6:55     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-11 11:31       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 27/32] vhost+postcopy: Wire up POSTCOPY_END notify Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30  6:57     ` Peter Xu
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 28/32] postcopy: Allow shared memory Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30 10:39     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-07 12:15       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 29/32] vhost-user: Claim support for postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-30 10:50     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 30/32] vhost: Merge neighbouring hugepage regions where appropriate Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-09-14  9:18     ` Igor Mammedov
2017-09-25 11:19       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-10-02 13:49         ` Igor Mammedov
2017-08-24 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 31/32] vhost: Don't break merged regions on small remove/non-adds Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2017-08-24 19:27   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git) [this message]
2017-09-01 13:34   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 00/32] postcopy+vhost-user/shared ram Alexey Perevalov
2017-09-01 13:42     ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-10-16  8:32       ` Alexey Perevalov

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