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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@kernel.org>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, julien.grall@arm.com,
	sstabellini@kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] xen/livepatch/ARM32: Don't load and crash on livepatches loaded with wrong alignment.
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 08:05:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170909120529.GA19614@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59B27F3F0200007800178AC9@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

On Fri, Sep 08, 2017 at 03:30:07AM -0600, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> On 07.09.17 at 19:36, <konrad@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 03:20:05AM -0600, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> >>> Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> 07/31/17 6:04 PM >>>
> >> >On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 07:55:34AM -0600, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> >> >>> Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@kernel.org> 07/26/17 9:50 PM >>>
> >> >> >--- a/docs/misc/livepatch.markdown
> >> >> >+++ b/docs/misc/livepatch.markdown
> >> >> >@@ -279,6 +279,10 @@ It may also have some architecture-specific sections. 
> > For example:
> >> >> >* Exception tables.
> >> >> >* Relocations for each of these sections.
> >> >>  >
> >> >> >+Note that on ARM 32 the sections SHOULD be four byte aligned. Otherwise
> >> >> >+we risk hitting Data Abort exception as un-aligned manipulation of data is
> >> >> >+prohibited on ARM 32.
> >> >> 
> >> >> This (and hence the rest of the patch) is not in line with the outcome of 
> > the
> >> >> earlier discussion we had. Nothing is wrong with a section having smaller
> >> >> alignment, as long as there are no 32-bit (or wider, but I don't think there
> >> >> are any such) relocations against such a section. And even if there were, I
> >> >> think it should rather be the code doing the relocations needing to cope, 
> > as
> >> >> I don't think the ARM ELF ABI imposes any such restriction.
> >> >
> >> >The idea behind this patch is to give advance warnings. Akin to what
> >> >2ff229643b739e2fd0cd0536ee9fca506cfa92f8
> >> >"xen/livepatch: Don't crash on encountering STN_UNDEF relocations" did.
> >> >
> >> >The other patches in this series fix the alignment issues.
> >> >
> >> >The ARM ELF ABI 
> > (http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.ihi0044f/IHI0044F_aaelf.pdf 
> > )
> >> >
> >> >says:
> >> >
> >> >4.3.5 Section Alignment
> >> >There is no minimum alignment required for a section. However, sections 
> > containing thumb code must be at least
> >> >16-bit aligned and sections containing ARM code must be at least 32-bit 
> > aligned.
> >> >Platform standards may set a limit on the maximum alignment that they can 
> > guarantee (normally the page size).
> >> 
> >> Note the "thumb code" and "ARM code" in here - iirc you're checking _all_
> >> sections, not just ones containing code.
> > 
> > I can fix the code to only do the check for 'X' ones:
> > 
> >   [ 2] .text             PROGBITS         0000000000000000  00000070
> >        00000000000000ca  0000000000000000  AX       0     0     16
> >   [ 4] .altinstr_replace PROGBITS         0000000000000000  0000013c
> >        000000000000000b  0000000000000000  AX       0     0     4
> >   [ 5] .fixup            PROGBITS         0000000000000000  00000147
> >        000000000000000d  0000000000000000  AX       0     0     1
> > 
> > 
> > And also have the check in the relocation - which right now are
> > 32-bit: R_ARM_ABS32, R_ARM_REL32, R_ARM_MOVW_ABS_NC, R_ARM_MOVT_ABS,
> > R_ARM_CALL, R_ARM_JUMP24 so will leave the code as in
> > arch_livepatch_perform.
> 
> Relocations applicable to code only _may_ be acceptable to have
> such an alignment check (but I could see cases where even that
> might be too aggressive), but afaik R_ARM_ABS32 isn't a code
> only one (out of the set listed above), so I doubt this should have
> an alignment check.
> 
> > But neither one of those is going to help in catching livepatches
> > that have the wrong alignment without relocations and not executable.
> > For example .livepatch.depends
> 
> What does "wrong alignment" mean when there's no code involved?

Anything which we try to access as a structure, or unsigned int,
that is not aligned to four bytes.

For example accessing .livepatch.depends from memory and blowing
up (hypervisor crashes) b/c it does not start at an four byte aligned
location.

> I think what you want to detect simply can't be detected reliably,
> without risking false positives.
> 
> Jan
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-09 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-26 19:47 [PATCH v2] Livepatch fixes for v4.10 (v2) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-07-26 19:47 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] livepatch: Tighten alignment checks Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-07-31 13:46   ` Jan Beulich
2017-07-26 19:47 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] livepatch: Include sizes when an mismatch occurs Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-07-31 13:51   ` Jan Beulich
2017-07-26 19:47 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] xen/livepatch/ARM32: Don't load and crash on livepatches loaded with wrong alignment Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-07-26 22:27   ` Andrew Cooper
2017-07-31 13:55   ` Jan Beulich
2017-07-31 16:04     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-08-02  9:20       ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-07 17:36         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-09-08  9:30           ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-09 12:05             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2017-09-11  9:01               ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-12  0:22                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-09-12  8:57                   ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-18 19:37                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-09-19 15:04                       ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-20 15:12                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-09-20 15:51                           ` Jan Beulich
2017-07-26 19:47 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] alternative/x86/arm32: Align altinstructions (and altinstr_replacement) sections Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-07-31 14:01   ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-11 18:59     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-07-26 19:47 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] livepatch: Declare live patching as a supported feature Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-07-31 14:03   ` Jan Beulich

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