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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
Cc: Juanito <juam+kernel@posteo.net>,
	"masaki.ota@jp.alps.com" <masaki.ota@jp.alps.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	Paul Donohue <linux-kernel@paulsd.com>
Subject: Re: ALPS touchpad ot correctly recognized: GlidePoint vs DualPoint
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 11:12:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170909181218.GA29107@dtor-ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201709091036.06899@pali>

On Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 10:36:06AM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Saturday 09 September 2017 10:12:42 Juanito wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On 09/08/2017 08:48 AM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Friday 08 September 2017 07:00:34 Juanito wrote:
> > >>> ThinkPad with ALPS? Should not be it Synaptic? Maybe
> > >>> miss-detection?
> > >> 
> > >> Sorry, I forgot to mention this. The ThinkPad came with a clickpad
> > >> I **really** disliked, so I bought this on the Internet.
> > > 
> > > So, here is a problem. ThinkPads works with Synaptic touchpads, not
> > > with ALPS.
> > 
> > There definitely seems to be a problem here :)
> > 
> > Do you mean that the alps code might not be detecting the trackpoint
> > because probably the red thingie works with synaptics?
> > 
> > So could this be the situation:
> > ALPS driver: Hey touchpad! Do you have a trackstick?
> > ALPS touchpad: No, I don't.
> > AD: Ok! (and thinks 'I am going to have to ignore all trackstick
> > packets that might arrive')
> > 
> > So the driver understands that there can't possibly be any buttons
> > because there is no trackstick?
> 
> IIRC ALPS touchpad hardware itself does not work with non-ALPS 
> trackpoint.
> 
> Masaki, any comments?
> 
> > >> If by trackstick you mean the red thingie, it is **not** working.
> > > 
> > > Ok. And it is working with your patch?
> > 
> > No, it isn't :(
> 
> I expected... You just created franken-hardware.
> 
> Looks like with your hack patch it is possible to make buttons working, 
> but I suspect that trackstick would.
> 
> Maybe Masaki can provide more information about this fact if we can do 
> anything.
> 
> Dmitry, what you as maintainer going to do with this problem?

It really depends on Ota-san response. If ALPS needs a special version
of firmware flashed for proper trackstick identification, then I guess
Juanito will have to carry a local patch. I do not think we want to
complicate the driver any further for supporting such after-market
modification.

Does booting with psmouse.proto=imps makes trackstick work?

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-09 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-07  7:05 ALPS touchpad ot correctly recognized: GlidePoint vs DualPoint Juanito
2017-09-07 21:31 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-09-07 21:54   ` Pali Rohár
2017-09-08  5:00     ` Juanito
2017-09-08  6:48       ` Pali Rohár
2017-09-09  8:12         ` Juanito
2017-09-09  8:36           ` Pali Rohár
2017-09-09 18:12             ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2017-09-09 18:21               ` Juanito
2017-09-11  2:38                 ` Masaki Ota
2017-09-11 11:26                   ` Juanito
2018-02-04 18:16                     ` Pali Rohár
     [not found]                       ` <f291e382-b90e-baba-fb3c-bdebc991a21d@posteo.net>
2018-02-04 20:21                         ` Pali Rohár
2018-02-05  7:48                           ` Juanito
2018-02-05 11:19                             ` Juanito
2018-02-11 23:01                               ` Pali Rohár

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