From: Vernon Mauery <vernon.mauery@linux.intel.com>
To: tomjose <tomjose@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: OpenBMC Maillist <openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: phosphor-host-ipmid and phosphor-net-ipmid architecture
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 09:29:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171016162902.GA113334@mauery> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59E063DF.7030805@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 13-Oct-2017 12:27 PM, tomjose wrote:
>
>Hey Vernon,
>
>1) There are few reasons for a different approach for net-ipmid
>
> The primary design direction when developing net-ipmid was to
>reuse the provider libraries
> for the commands that are common across the interfaces. It was a
>conscious decision
> to have two processes for network & BT, keeping in mind to have
>small applications
> rather than having monolithic ones.
Okay. If this was a conscious design decision, I don't see a reason to
expend effort to undo it just to have my patch rejected. :)
> The network handler would not be minimal like btbridge or
>KCSbridge, since there are net-ipmid
> specific functionalities like session setup, serial over LAN..etc.
>The only difference i see in your
> idea is we would relay the common commands on the dbus so that
>ipmid would handle.
>
>2) The phosphor-host-ipmid was developed as part of the prototyping
>done for Barreleye. So i agree that
> we have quite a number of shortcomings, that it is not in
>alignment with the modern C++ practices.
> We have added more code and haven't got to refactor that. We have
>a story to refactor phosphor-host-ipmid.
> The plan was to handle so some of these suggestions as part of that.
I admit I have not looked that much at the net-ipmid (only enough to see
that it was a different queue implementation from host-ipmid). Making
some of the queueing common and updating to current c++ standards would
be great.
> The support is in place to register each command's privilege. The
>support would be completed once the
> IPMI user account management changes are in place. The command's
>privilege would matter only on
> the LAN interface which is session based. In net-ipmid every
>command would be checked against the
> session's privilege, so that a session with USER privilege would be
>restricted from running a command
> that needs ADMIN privilege. Since KCS and BT are sessionless and
>unauthenticated, this would not matter.
>
> Similarly System interface commands are compiled into a separate
>library which is not loaded in the
> net-ipmid.
If this support is already in the net-ipmid, great.
>3) This is something we wanted to do, we can discuss what is the best
>possible approach. This would help with
> command like Get/Set System Boot Configuration where each
>implementer would get the flexibility
> to implement the OEM parameters.
>
> Are you working on a OEM provider library?
I am working on some firmware update commands (which I guess by the spec
are technically OEM commands) and we have some other people working on
other commands (sensor/sdr related).
>Regards,
>Tom
>
>
>
>
>On Thursday 12 October 2017 03:35 AM, Vernon Mauery wrote:
>>I am working on an ipmi provider library and had a few questions and
>>observations.
>>
>>1) Why are there separate ipmi message queues for the host and network?
>> It seems awkward that for the host, the ipmi request comes from a
>> different process (btbridge, or in our case kcsbridge), while for the
>> network (RMCP+), the messages are handled directly in the same
>> process.
>>
>> It seems that the network handler could just as easily package the
>> command up and send it to ipmid the same way that btbridge does.
>>
>>2) Can we modify the signature of the handlers so that they can behave
>> in a more intelligent manner? It would be nice if they were handed a
>> gsl::span<uint8_t> instead of a void* and a length. This allows for
>> a no-copy, bounds-checked way of passing buffers.
>>
>> It would be nice to know what channel something came in on. We might
>> want to be able to change behavior based on the incoming channel (as
>> some channels are more secure than others).
>>
>> It would be nice to know what IPMI privilege the command came in
>> with (ADMIN for session-less commands) so that the command handler
>> can behave appropriately based on the user.
>>3) When registering commands, it would be nice of the list also
>> maintained a priority so that commands could be easily overridden.
>> Currently the only way to override a command is to make sure that
>> your library gets loaded first (and this is done via the library
>> name). If we had default ipmi commands loaded at DEFAULT_PRIO and
>> then had some higher priorities such as MFR_PRIO, and OEM_PRIO, or
>> something like that, we could have integrators further on down the
>> line able to easily add a new provider library and piecemeal override
>> individual command. An alternate (or addition) might be the addition
>> of a unregister command method to remove an existing command so it
>> could be replaced with a new one (or just straight up removed).
>>
>>
>>I am happy to work on changes that I would like to see and submit
>>patches for review, but I wanted to know if there was some sort of
>>historical or other reason that would prevent my work from getting
>>rejected before I actually do the work.
>>
>>--Vernon
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-16 16:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-11 22:05 phosphor-host-ipmid and phosphor-net-ipmid architecture Vernon Mauery
2017-10-12 16:03 ` Brad Bishop
2017-10-12 16:25 ` Xo Wang
2017-10-12 16:37 ` Brad Bishop
2017-10-12 21:41 ` Vernon Mauery
2017-10-12 21:36 ` Vernon Mauery
2017-10-12 21:17 ` Vernon Mauery
2017-10-13 6:57 ` tomjose
2017-10-16 16:29 ` Vernon Mauery [this message]
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2017-10-19 4:08 brendanhiggins
2017-10-23 15:22 ` tomjose
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