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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jens Freimann <jfreimann@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: Virtio BoF minutes from KVM Forum 2017
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 16:59:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171101162357-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171029125225.lx4ezpkbvjjsjv3x@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 01:52:25PM +0100, Jens Freimann wrote:
> Ilya: - you might have more completions than descriptors available
> - partial descriptor chains are a problem for hardware because you might have
>  to read a bunch of conscriptors twice - how would you do deal with a big
> buffer that cointains a large number of
>  small packets with respect to completions?
> - is one bit for completion enough? right now it means descriptor was actually
>  used. how to we signal when it was completed?

I am not sure I understand the difference. Under virtio, driver makes a
descriptor available, then device reads/writes memory depending on
descriptor type, then marks it as used.

What does completed mean?

> - concerned about not being able to do scatter/gatter with the ring layout.
>  Network drivers heavily using indirect buffers.  - for a hardware
> implementation a completion ring is a very convenient form for
>  some use cases, so we want an efficient implementation for them. If we had an
>  inline descriptor then a completion ring is just a normal ring and we won't
>  need another ring type.
> - doesn't like the fact that we need to do a linear scan to find the length of
>  a descriptor chain. It would be nice if we could have the length of the chain
>  in the first descriptor (i.e. the number of chained descriptors, not the number
>  of posted descriptors which can be deduced from the id field)

Not responding to rest of points since I don't understand the basic
assumption above yet.

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MST

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-01 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-29 12:52 [virtio-dev] Virtio BoF minutes from KVM Forum 2017 Jens Freimann
2017-10-29 12:52 ` Jens Freimann
2017-11-01 14:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-11-01 15:52   ` [virtio-dev] " Ilya Lesokhin
2017-11-01 15:52     ` Ilya Lesokhin
2017-11-01 17:35     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-11-01 17:35     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-11-01 18:12       ` Ilya Lesokhin
2017-11-01 18:12       ` [virtio-dev] " Ilya Lesokhin
2017-11-02  3:40         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-11-02  3:40           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-11-02  8:18           ` Ilya Lesokhin
2017-11-01 14:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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