From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"keescook@chromium.org" <keescook@chromium.org>,
"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"ishkamiel@gmail.com" <ishkamiel@gmail.com>,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
parri.andrea@gmail.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
dhowells@redhat.com, david@fromorbit.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] refcount: provide same memory ordering guarantees as in atomic_t
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:05:41 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171115180540.GQ19071@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1711021558120.1277-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 04:21:56PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> I was trying to think of something completely different. If you have a
> release/acquire to the same address, it creates a happens-before
> ordering:
>
> Access x
> Release a
> Acquire a
> Access y
>
> Here is the access to x happens-before the access to y. This is true
> even on x86, even in the presence of forwarding -- the CPU still has to
> execute the instructions in order. But if the release and acquire are
> to different addresses:
>
> Access x
> Release a
> Acquire b
> Access y
>
> then there is no happens-before ordering for x and y -- the CPU can
> execute the last two instructions before the first two. x86 and
> PowerPC won't do this, but I believe ARMv8 can. (Please correct me if
> it can't.)
Release/Acquire are RCsc on ARMv8, so they are ordered irrespective of
address.
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-15 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-23 11:09 [PATCH] refcount: provide same memory ordering guarantees as in atomic_t Elena Reshetova
2017-10-23 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-27 6:49 ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-10-27 13:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-02 11:04 ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-11-02 13:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-02 15:40 ` Alan Stern
2017-11-02 16:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-02 16:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-02 17:08 ` Alan Stern
2017-11-02 17:16 ` Will Deacon
2017-11-02 17:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-02 20:21 ` Alan Stern
2017-11-15 18:05 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2017-11-15 19:15 ` Alan Stern
2017-11-15 20:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-15 20:22 ` Alan Stern
2017-11-16 8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-15 21:01 ` Andrea Parri
2017-11-16 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16 10:00 ` Andrea Parri
2017-11-02 17:45 ` Andrea Parri
2017-11-02 20:28 ` Alan Stern
2017-11-03 11:55 ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-11-13 9:09 ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-11-13 13:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-11-13 16:01 ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-11-13 16:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-11-14 11:23 ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-11-14 17:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-11-16 13:44 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-16 15:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
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