From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36342) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eHqJo-0001OR-Gs for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 07:09:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eHqJe-00037D-Og for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 07:09:24 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:57236) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eHqJe-00034m-Gz for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 07:09:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 13:09:08 +0100 From: Cornelia Huck Message-ID: <20171123130908.6ab004d3.cohuck@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <16011ac4-77c4-af75-5754-5f9586d6d629@redhat.com> References: <20171110152017.24324-1-clg@kaod.org> <20171110152017.24324-2-clg@kaod.org> <715a7bd1-7aa5-fa64-a9b8-76782ee20576@redhat.com> <20171123110345.03541b50.cohuck@redhat.com> <1dff6d6c-be83-f6e1-2b7e-82d98bdb8a63@redhat.com> <6dd7061e-2ebe-7a51-8142-f67d5d75a81a@redhat.com> <8cd1c0b3-8386-d41e-ccfb-1a2073cdf4fb@redhat.com> <16011ac4-77c4-af75-5754-5f9586d6d629@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU 3.0 ? List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Paolo Bonzini Cc: Thomas Huth , Peter Maydell , =?UTF-8?B?Q8OpZHJpYw==?= Le Goater , QEMU Developers , David Gibson , Greg Kurz , Markus Armbruster , "Daniel P. Berrange" , Eric Blake , Philippe =?UTF-8?B?TWF0aGlldS1EYXVkw6k=?= , sergio.g.delreal@gmail.com, alex@alex.org.uk On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 13:05:33 +0100 Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 23/11/2017 12:57, Thomas Huth wrote: > > On 23.11.2017 12:17, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > >> On 23/11/2017 11:57, Thomas Huth wrote: > > [...] > >>> I've put "--accel kvm:hax:tcg" also on the doable list since I don't > >>> remember any objections to that idea so far -- feel free to move it to > >>> the controversial list instead if you think it needs more discussion. > >> > >> "hax" is very far from feature parity with TCG, it doesn't even support > >> CPUID (-cpu). "-accel kvm:hvf:tcg" could be a possibility, but only if > >> we have resources to test it. As far as I know the only active x86 > >> developer who owns a Mac is Igor? > > > > hvf hasn't been merged yet ... do you expect it to hit master after 2.11 > > has been released? > > Yes, more or less. > > > Otherwise, we should maybe rather simply go with > > "--accel kvm:tcg"? > > Yes, HVF can come later. This switch sounds like something we can easily do for the next release; I'd hope that anyone explicitly requiring tcg already specifies it.