From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [bisected] system hang after boot
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 12:45:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171127124506.GB30679@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171127114947.GA30679@arm.com>
Me again...
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:49:47AM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 09:22:17PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 06:26:59PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> >
> > > Now, I can't see what the break_lock is doing here other than causing
> > > problems. Is there a good reason for it, or can you just try removing it
> > > altogether? Patch below.
> >
> > The main use is spin_is_contended(), which in turn ends up used in
> > __cond_resched_lock() through spin_needbreak().
> >
> > This allows better lock wait times for PREEMPT kernels on platforms
> > where the lock implementation itself cannot provide 'contended' state.
> >
> > In that capacity the write-write race shouldn't be a problem though.
>
> I'm not sure why it isn't a problem: given that the break_lock variable
> can read as 1 for a lock that is no longer contended and 0 for a lock that
> is currently contended, then the __cond_resched_lock is likely to see a
> value of 0 (i.e. spin_needbreak always return false) more often than no
> since it's checked by the lock holder.
>
> > That said, I'd not be horribly sad to see this go, I've always found it
> > to be quite the ugly hack and taking it out should provide some
> > incentive for better lock implementations for the archs relying on this.
>
> Right, and they can always implement arch_spin_is_contended if they have
> a good way to do it.
>
> I'll post this diff as a full patch, since it's clearly needed to get some
> s390 systems booting against with 4.15.
In writing up the patch, I realised that I might be being a bit too purist
about what we can actually rely on here, particularly as GENERIC_LOCKBREAK
isn't widely selected. I'm still suspicious, but perhaps on the architectures
that *do* select it, then the propagation of the lock_break variable between
CPUs works out because of the barriers in lock()/trylock(), and that's
sufficient for a "good enough" spin_is_contended() implementation.
Sebastian: could you try the diff below, please? If that fixes s390, then
we can debate the merits of GENERIC_LOCKBREAK independently of fixing this
issue.
Thanks,
Will
--->8
diff --git a/kernel/locking/spinlock.c b/kernel/locking/spinlock.c
index 1fd1a7543cdd..0ebb253e2199 100644
--- a/kernel/locking/spinlock.c
+++ b/kernel/locking/spinlock.c
@@ -68,8 +68,8 @@ void __lockfunc __raw_##op##_lock(locktype##_t *lock) \
\
if (!(lock)->break_lock) \
(lock)->break_lock = 1; \
- while ((lock)->break_lock) \
- arch_##op##_relax(&lock->raw_lock); \
+ \
+ arch_##op##_relax(&lock->raw_lock); \
} \
(lock)->break_lock = 0; \
} \
@@ -88,8 +88,8 @@ unsigned long __lockfunc __raw_##op##_lock_irqsave(locktype##_t *lock) \
\
if (!(lock)->break_lock) \
(lock)->break_lock = 1; \
- while ((lock)->break_lock) \
- arch_##op##_relax(&lock->raw_lock); \
+ \
+ arch_##op##_relax(&lock->raw_lock); \
} \
(lock)->break_lock = 0; \
return flags; \
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-27 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-22 17:46 [bisected] system hang after boot Sebastian Ott
2017-11-22 18:26 ` Will Deacon
2017-11-22 18:54 ` Sebastian Ott
2017-11-22 19:10 ` Will Deacon
2017-11-22 20:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-27 11:49 ` Will Deacon
2017-11-27 12:45 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2017-11-27 13:05 ` Sebastian Ott
2017-11-27 12:49 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-11-27 12:54 ` Will Deacon
2017-11-27 13:00 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-11-27 13:10 ` Will Deacon
2017-11-27 13:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-27 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
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