From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pf0-f194.google.com ([209.85.192.194]:39514 "EHLO mail-pf0-f194.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751436AbeA2V7V (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Jan 2018 16:59:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:59:19 -0800 From: Guenter Roeck To: Michael Grzeschik Cc: a.zummo@towertech.it, alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com, linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, jdelvare@suse.com, kernel@pengutronix.de, Denis.Osterland@diehl.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] rtc: isl1208: add support for isl1219 with hwmon for tamper detection Message-ID: <20180129215919.GA17988@roeck-us.net> References: <20180123121801.4214-1-m.grzeschik@pengutronix.de> <20180123121801.4214-5-m.grzeschik@pengutronix.de> <20180123182254.GA27379@roeck-us.net> <20180124090333.r5o2mzpm4q536w4r@pengutronix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <20180124090333.r5o2mzpm4q536w4r@pengutronix.de> Sender: linux-rtc-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:03:33AM +0100, Michael Grzeschik wrote: [ ... ] > > > + > > > diff --git a/Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface b/Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface > > > index fc337c317c673..a12b3c2b2a18c 100644 > > > --- a/Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface > > > +++ b/Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface > > > @@ -702,6 +702,13 @@ intrusion[0-*]_alarm > > > the user. This is done by writing 0 to the file. Writing > > > other values is unsupported. > > > > > > +intrusion[0-*]_timestamp > > > + Chassis intrusion detection > > > + YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS UTC (ts.sec): intrusion detected > > > + RO > > > + The corresponding timestamp on which the intrustion > > > + was detected. > > > + > > > > Sneaky. Nack. You don't just add attributes to the ABI because you want it, > > without serious discussion, and much less so hidden in an RTC driver > > (and even less as unparseable attribute). > > Right; but it was not meant to be sneaky. I should have stick to my first > thought and label this patch RFC. Sorry for that. > > > In addition to that, I consider the attribute unnecessary. The intrusion > > already generates an event which should be sufficient for all practical > > purposes. > > Would it make sense in between the other sysfs attributes of this driver? > I don't understand what you mean with that, sorry. >>From an ABI perspective, the attibute doesn't add value since it is highly device specific (or at least it is the only chip I am aware of which reports such a time stamp). Feel free to add the attribute to the driver and document it, but not as part of the hwmon ABI. In that case I would be inclined to accept it. However, keep in mind that your version, reporting a human readable date/time, would effectively preclude it from ever making it into the ABI. Guenter From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Guenter Roeck Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] rtc: isl1208: add support for isl1219 with hwmon for tamper detection Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:59:19 -0800 Message-ID: <20180129215919.GA17988@roeck-us.net> References: <20180123121801.4214-1-m.grzeschik@pengutronix.de> <20180123121801.4214-5-m.grzeschik@pengutronix.de> <20180123182254.GA27379@roeck-us.net> <20180124090333.r5o2mzpm4q536w4r@pengutronix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180124090333.r5o2mzpm4q536w4r-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org> Sender: devicetree-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org To: Michael Grzeschik Cc: a.zummo-BfzFCNDTiLLj+vYz1yj4TQ@public.gmane.org, alexandre.belloni-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org, linux-rtc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, jdelvare-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org, kernel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org, Denis.Osterland-85mDkmTllUAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org List-Id: devicetree@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:03:33AM +0100, Michael Grzeschik wrote: [ ... ] > > > + > > > diff --git a/Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface b/Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface > > > index fc337c317c673..a12b3c2b2a18c 100644 > > > --- a/Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface > > > +++ b/Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface > > > @@ -702,6 +702,13 @@ intrusion[0-*]_alarm > > > the user. This is done by writing 0 to the file. Writing > > > other values is unsupported. > > > > > > +intrusion[0-*]_timestamp > > > + Chassis intrusion detection > > > + YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS UTC (ts.sec): intrusion detected > > > + RO > > > + The corresponding timestamp on which the intrustion > > > + was detected. > > > + > > > > Sneaky. Nack. You don't just add attributes to the ABI because you want it, > > without serious discussion, and much less so hidden in an RTC driver > > (and even less as unparseable attribute). > > Right; but it was not meant to be sneaky. I should have stick to my first > thought and label this patch RFC. Sorry for that. > > > In addition to that, I consider the attribute unnecessary. The intrusion > > already generates an event which should be sufficient for all practical > > purposes. > > Would it make sense in between the other sysfs attributes of this driver? > I don't understand what you mean with that, sorry. >>From an ABI perspective, the attibute doesn't add value since it is highly device specific (or at least it is the only chip I am aware of which reports such a time stamp). Feel free to add the attribute to the driver and document it, but not as part of the hwmon ABI. In that case I would be inclined to accept it. However, keep in mind that your version, reporting a human readable date/time, would effectively preclude it from ever making it into the ABI. Guenter -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html