From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:40:17 +0100 From: Linus =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=BCssing?= Message-ID: <20180312114017.GM2470@otheros> References: <20180227090556.02a24a0d@xeon-e3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Bridge] Problem with bridge (mcast-to-ucast + hairpin) and Broadcom's 802.11f in their FullMAC fw List-Id: Linux Ethernet Bridging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: =?utf-8?B?UmFmYcWCIE1pxYJlY2tp?= Cc: Pieter-Paul Giesberts , Arend van Spriel , Network Development , Chi-Hsien Lin , bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , Hante Meuleman , Wright Feng , Felix Fietkau , "open list:BROADCOM BRCM80211 IEEE802.11n WIRELESS DRIVER , " , Franky Lin On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:46:45AM +0100, Rafał Miłecki wrote: > On 27 February 2018 at 18:05, Stephen Hemminger [...] > > ebtables is your friend in dealing with weird and broken devices. > > It may be weird, not sure if actually broken. Anyway I'd like to have > some generic solution instead of telling every user to use ebtables to > workaround the problem. I agree that a "broken by default" in OpenWRT/LEDE for a variety of Broadcom devices is not really acceptable. Technically we could teach netifd in OpenWRT/LEDE to configure ebtables accordingly, at least for a list of affected devices, so that users would not have to. However, as ebtables is not managed by the fw3 in OpenWRT/LEDE, that would probably interfer with user provided ebtables rules and scripts... > That said I think we still should look for a solution for existing > firmwares. I guess it may takes months to years to never to release > new firmwares for all supported chipsets. Hm, we could change the default in OpenWRT/LEDE for multicast-to-unicast (or more precisely bridge hairpinning) to disabled again for now. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from mail.aperture-lab.de ([138.201.29.205]:42808 "EHLO mail.aperture-lab.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751247AbeCLLkU (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:40:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:40:17 +0100 From: Linus =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=BCssing?= To: =?utf-8?B?UmFmYcWCIE1pxYJlY2tp?= Cc: Stephen Hemminger , Felix Fietkau , Arend van Spriel , Franky Lin , Hante Meuleman , Chi-Hsien Lin , Wright Feng , Pieter-Paul Giesberts , Network Development , bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , "open list:BROADCOM BRCM80211 IEEE802.11n WIRELESS DRIVER ," Subject: Re: Problem with bridge (mcast-to-ucast + hairpin) and Broadcom's 802.11f in their FullMAC fw Message-ID: <20180312114017.GM2470@otheros> (sfid-20180312_124028_539327_3EB4183B) References: <20180227090556.02a24a0d@xeon-e3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:46:45AM +0100, Rafał Miłecki wrote: > On 27 February 2018 at 18:05, Stephen Hemminger [...] > > ebtables is your friend in dealing with weird and broken devices. > > It may be weird, not sure if actually broken. Anyway I'd like to have > some generic solution instead of telling every user to use ebtables to > workaround the problem. I agree that a "broken by default" in OpenWRT/LEDE for a variety of Broadcom devices is not really acceptable. Technically we could teach netifd in OpenWRT/LEDE to configure ebtables accordingly, at least for a list of affected devices, so that users would not have to. However, as ebtables is not managed by the fw3 in OpenWRT/LEDE, that would probably interfer with user provided ebtables rules and scripts... > That said I think we still should look for a solution for existing > firmwares. I guess it may takes months to years to never to release > new firmwares for all supported chipsets. Hm, we could change the default in OpenWRT/LEDE for multicast-to-unicast (or more precisely bridge hairpinning) to disabled again for now. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Linus =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=BCssing?= Subject: Re: Problem with bridge (mcast-to-ucast + hairpin) and Broadcom's 802.11f in their FullMAC fw Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:40:17 +0100 Message-ID: <20180312114017.GM2470@otheros> References: <20180227090556.02a24a0d@xeon-e3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Stephen Hemminger , Felix Fietkau , Arend van Spriel , Franky Lin , Hante Meuleman , Chi-Hsien Lin , Wright Feng , Pieter-Paul Giesberts , Network Development , bridge-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org, "linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" , "open list:BROADCOM BRCM80211 IEEE802.11n WIRELESS DRIVER ," To: =?utf-8?B?UmFmYcWCIE1pxYJlY2tp?= Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-wireless-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:46:45AM +0100, Rafał Miłecki wrote: > On 27 February 2018 at 18:05, Stephen Hemminger [...] > > ebtables is your friend in dealing with weird and broken devices. > > It may be weird, not sure if actually broken. Anyway I'd like to have > some generic solution instead of telling every user to use ebtables to > workaround the problem. I agree that a "broken by default" in OpenWRT/LEDE for a variety of Broadcom devices is not really acceptable. Technically we could teach netifd in OpenWRT/LEDE to configure ebtables accordingly, at least for a list of affected devices, so that users would not have to. However, as ebtables is not managed by the fw3 in OpenWRT/LEDE, that would probably interfer with user provided ebtables rules and scripts... > That said I think we still should look for a solution for existing > firmwares. I guess it may takes months to years to never to release > new firmwares for all supported chipsets. Hm, we could change the default in OpenWRT/LEDE for multicast-to-unicast (or more precisely bridge hairpinning) to disabled again for now.