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From: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
To: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thara Gopinath <thara.gopinath@linaro.org>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Chris Redpath <chris.redpath@arm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/6] sched/fair: Introduce an energy estimation helper function
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 05:05:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180322050527.GA1559@queper01-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180321155458.GD13951@e110439-lin>

On Wednesday 21 Mar 2018 at 15:54:58 (+0000), Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> On 21-Mar 14:26, Quentin Perret wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 Mar 2018 at 12:39:21 (+0000), Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > On 20-Mar 09:43, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> > > > From: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>

[...]

> > So actually, what I can do is add something like
> > 
> >     fdom_tot_util += util;
> > 
> > to this loop and compute
> > 
> >     energy = cs->power * fdom_tot_util / cs->cap;
> > 
> > only once, instead of having the second loop to compute the energy. We don't
> > have to scale the util for each and every CPU since they share the same
> > cap state. That would save some divisions and ensure the consistency
> > between the selection of the cap state and the associated energy
> > computation. What do you think ?
> 
> Right, would say that under the hypothesis the we are in the same
> frequency domain (and we are because of fdom->span), that's basically
> doing:
> 
>    sum_i(P_x * U_i / C_x) => P_x / C_x * sum_i(U_i)
> 
> Where (C_x, P_x) are the EM reported capacity and power for the
> expected frequency domain OPP.
> 

Yes that's exactly that. I'll do the change in v2.

> > Or maybe you were talking about consistency between several consecutive
> > calls to compute_energy() ?
> 
> Nope, the above +1
> 

[...]

> > I agree that it would be nice to document somewhere that
> > compute_energy() is unsafe to call without sched_energy_present.
> > I can simply add a proper doc comment to this function actually.
> > Would that work ?
> 
> Right, it's just that _maybe_ an explicit BUG_ON is improving the
> documentation by making more explicit the error on testing ?
> 
> Thus, I would probably add both... but Peter will tell you for sure ;)
> 

Right, but I'm still not sure if the BUG_ON is the right thing to do. I
mean, if we really want to make this check, then we could also try
to recover into a working state ... If we enter compute_energy() without
having an energy model, and if we detect it on time, we could bail out
and disable sched_energy_present ASAP with an error message for example.
That would let us know if EAS is broken without making the system
unusable.

Anyways, if there is a general agreement, or if the maintainers think
that the BUG_ON is the right thing to do here, I'm happy to change that
in future versions :)

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-22  5:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-20  9:43 [RFC PATCH 0/6] Energy Aware Scheduling Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] sched/fair: Create util_fits_capacity() Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] sched: Introduce energy models of CPUs Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20  9:52   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-03-21  0:45     ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-25 13:48     ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-26 22:26       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-04-09 12:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09 13:45     ` Quentin Perret
2018-04-09 15:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09 16:42         ` Quentin Perret
2018-04-10  6:55           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-04-10  9:31             ` Quentin Perret
2018-04-10 10:20               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] sched: Add over-utilization/tipping point indicator Dietmar Eggemann
2018-04-09  9:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09  9:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09  9:53     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-04-09 11:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] sched/fair: Introduce an energy estimation helper function Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-21  9:04   ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 12:26     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-21 12:59       ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 13:55         ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-21 15:15           ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 16:26             ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-03-21 17:02               ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 14:02       ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-21 21:15         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-21 12:39   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-21 14:26     ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-21 14:50       ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 15:54       ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-22  5:05         ` Quentin Perret [this message]
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] sched/fair: Select an energy-efficient CPU on task wake-up Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-21 15:35   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-22 20:10     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-23 15:47       ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-03-24  1:13         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-24  1:34           ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-24  6:06             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-24  6:06               ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-24  1:22         ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-25  1:52     ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-22 16:27   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-22 18:06     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-22 20:19       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-24  1:47         ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-25  0:12           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-23 16:00     ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-03-24  0:36       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-25  1:38       ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] drivers: base: arch_topology.c: Enable EAS for arm/arm64 platforms Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20  9:49   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-03-20 15:20     ` Dietmar Eggemann

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