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From: William Breathitt Gray <vilhelm.gray@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: knaack.h@gmx.de, lars@metafoo.de, pmeerw@pmeerw.net,
	benjamin.gaignard@st.com, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/8] counter: 104-quad-8: Documentation: Add Generic Counter sysfs documentation
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 15:41:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180402194136.GA11724@sophia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180324172140.382659e2@archlinux>

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 05:21:40PM +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>On Fri,  9 Mar 2018 13:43:19 -0500
>William Breathitt Gray <vilhelm.gray@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This patch adds standard documentation for the Generic Counter interface
>> userspace sysfs attributes of the 104-QUAD-8 driver.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: William Breathitt Gray <vilhelm.gray@gmail.com>
>A few minor comments inline...
>Some of this seems generic and common enough you should just put it in the
>main docs straight away rather that waiting for more devices to use it.
>
>Jonathan

That sounds reasonable so I'll move some of these into the main Generic
Counter sysfs documentation file.

Some comments inline follow.

William Breathitt Gray

>
>> ---
>>  .../ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-counter-104-quad-8       | 115 +++++++++++++++++++++
>>  MAINTAINERS                                        |   1 +
>>  2 files changed, 116 insertions(+)
>>  create mode 100644 Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-counter-104-quad-8
>> 
>> diff --git a/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-counter-104-quad-8 b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-counter-104-quad-8
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 000000000000..4269b438185a
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-counter-104-quad-8
>> @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/countY_count_mode
>> +KernelVersion:	4.17
>> +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
>> +Description:
>> +		Count mode for channel Y. The preset value for channel Y is used
>> +		by the count mode where required. The following count modes are
>> +		available:
>> +
>> +		Normal:
>> +			Counting is continuous in either direction.
>> +
>> +		Range Limit:
>> +			An upper or lower limit is set, mimicking limit switches
>> +			in the mechanical counterpart. The upper limit is set to
>> +			the preset value, while the lower limit is set to 0. The
>> +			counter freezes at count = preset when counting up, and
>> +			at count = 0 when counting down. At either of these
>> +			limits, the counting is resumed only when the count
>> +			direction is reversed.
>> +
>> +		Non-recycle:
>> +			Counter is disabled whenever a 24-bit count overflow or
>> +			underflow takes place. The counter is re-enabled when a
>> +			new count value is loaded to the counter via a preset
>> +			operation or write to raw.
>> +
>> +		Modulo-N:
>> +			A count boundary is set between 0 and the preset value.
>> +			The counter is reset to 0 at count = preset when
>> +			counting up, while the counter is set to the preset
>> +			value at count = 0 when counting down; the counter does
>> +			not freeze at the bundary points, but counts
>> +			continuously throughout.
>
>This worries me a little in that you will end up with all sorts of subtle
>variations around these concepts and hence end up with an impossible to
>generalize userspace interface...

There is a potention for a deal of variations due to the diverse range
of counter devices out there -- in particular, I worry about the
confusion of similar functionality using slightly different names (e.g.
"Normal" may be named "Continuous" in another driver) and vice versa.
Perhaps I should standardize these count modes in the main Generic
Counter sysfs documentation file.

A difficulty with standardizing these count modes is how to handle
description cases such as "Non-recycle" mode whose limit range is that
of the count register size (24-bit). This limit range would be different
in a device of a different count register size; for example, the LS7366R
is a 32-bit version of this counter device with the same interface, but
which has a 32-bit limit in "Non-recycle" mode. However, this may not be
such a problem since the datasheet for these devices does use a more
generic description of this mode which I can utilize: "counter disabled
with carry or borrow, re-enabled with reset or load."

The count_mode attribute is core enough to Generic Counter paradigm that
I expect it to appear in many Counter drivers, so I'll move this to the
main Generic Counter sysfs documentation file for better standardization
of its modes.

>
>> +
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/countY_count_mode_available
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/countY_noise_error_available
>> +KernelVersion:	4.17
>> +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
>> +Description:
>> +		Discrete set of available values for the respective Count Y
>> +		configuration are listed in this file.
>> +
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/countY_direction
>> +KernelVersion:	4.17
>> +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
>> +Description:
>> +		Read-only attribute that indicates the count direction of
>> +		Count Y. Two count directions are available: Forward and
>> +		Backward.
>Is this telling us which way it is currently counting?  I would imagine
>it's generic inversion control, but this description doesn't make that clear.

The nature of quadrature encoding allows direction of movement to be
determined -- in terms of count data this direction represents whether
the count value is increasing or decreasing. For the 104-QUAD-8 device,
this "direction" is a read-only value provided by the hardware
evaluation of the A and B input lines.

However, I can imagine some simple counter devices permitting write
operations to configure a direction as a form of inversion control for
the counter. This attribute is generic enough to include in the main
Generic Counter sysfs documentation file, so I'll move it there and add
a more detailed explanation of its read and write functionality.

>
>> +
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/countY_enable
>> +KernelVersion:	4.17
>> +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
>> +Description:
>> +		Whether channel Y inputs A and B are enabled. Valid attribute
>> +		values are boolean.
>Why would you disable them?  I'm unclear on what userspace would do with this.

Truthfully, I haven't found much use for this functionality in my
applications, but several devices provide it so I have exposed it here.
I believe the intention is to allow users to pause a counter temporarily
(i.e. by ignoring changes on the A and B inputs) and then pick up where
they left off.

I think a possible real life use case would look like this: a conveyor
system tracks total movement, reaches the end of a production run and
pauses the counter, rehomes the conveyor belt, then restarts the counter
and continues counting where it left off.

This count enable functionality is generic enough that I can also move
it to the main Generic Counter sysfs documentation file, but I'll give
it a more generic description without referencing the A and B input
lines.

>
>> +
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/countY_noise_error
>> +KernelVersion:	4.17
>> +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
>> +Description:
>> +		Read-only attribute that indicates whether excessive noise is
>> +		present at the channel Y count inputs in quadrature clock mode;
>> +		irrelevant in non-quadrature (Pulse-Direction) clock mode.
>If you are going to report errors like this I would suggest trying to have
>a generic form that is easy for userspace to match.  
>countY_error_noise would allow easy presentation of all errors of the
>form
>countY_error_<error type> as a list based on <error type>
>
>> +
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/countY_preset
>> +KernelVersion:	4.17
>> +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
>> +Description:
>> +		If the counter device supports preset registers, the preset
>> +		count for channel Y is provided by this attribute.
>> +
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/countY_preset_enable
>> +KernelVersion:	4.17
>> +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
>> +Description:
>> +		Whether to set channel Y counter with channel Y preset value
>> +		when channel Y index input is active, or continuously count.
>> +		Valid attribute values are boolean.
>> +
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/signalY_index_polarity
>> +KernelVersion:	4.17
>> +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
>> +Description:
>> +		Active level of channel Y-16 index input; irrelevant in
>> +		non-synchronous load mode.
>This seems like a generic control that should be in the main docs?
>don't use Y-16 to identify the channel.  Use "the associated channel to signal Y".
>
>> +
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/signalY_index_polarity_available
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/signalY_synchronous_mode_available
>> +KernelVersion:	4.17
>> +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
>> +Description:
>> +		Discrete set of available values for the respective Signal Y
>> +		configuration are listed in this file.
>> +
>> +What:		/sys/bus/counter/devices/counterX/signalY_synchronous_mode
>> +KernelVersion:	4.17
>> +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
>> +Description:
>> +		Configure channel Y-16 counter for non-synchronous or
>> +		synchronous load mode. Synchronous load mode cannot be selected
>> +		in non-quadrature (Pulse-Direction) clock mode.
>> +
>> +		Non-synchronous:
>> +			A logic low level is the active level at this index
>> +			input. The index function (as enabled via preset_enable)
>> +			is performed directly on the active level of the index
>> +			input.
>> +
>> +		Synchronous:
>> +			Intended for interfacing with encoder Index output in
>> +			quadrature clock mode. The active level is configured
>> +			via index_polarity. The index function (as enabled via
>> +			preset_enable) is performed synchronously with the
>> +			quadrature clock on the active level of the index input.
>> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
>> index febe27a9962e..8134050d175a 100644
>> --- a/MAINTAINERS
>> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
>> @@ -270,6 +270,7 @@ ACCES 104-QUAD-8 DRIVER
>>  M:	William Breathitt Gray <vilhelm.gray@gmail.com>
>>  L:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
>>  S:	Maintained
>> +F:	Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-counter-104-quad-8
>>  F:	Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-iio-counter-104-quad-8
>>  F:	drivers/counter/104-quad-8.c
>>  
>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-02 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-09 18:41 [PATCH v5 0/8] Introduce the Counter subsystem William Breathitt Gray
2018-03-09 18:42 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] counter: Introduce the Generic Counter interface William Breathitt Gray
2018-03-24 17:33   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-03-25  7:46     ` Joe Perches
2018-03-25 16:56       ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-03-25 17:04         ` Joe Perches
2018-04-01  0:41     ` William Breathitt Gray
2018-04-06 15:02       ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-03-09 18:42 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] counter: Documentation: Add Generic Counter sysfs documentation William Breathitt Gray
2018-03-24 17:05   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-03-09 18:42 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] docs: Add Generic Counter interface documentation William Breathitt Gray
2018-03-17 23:43   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-03-24 16:09   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-03-09 18:43 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] counter: 104-quad-8: Add Generic Counter interface support William Breathitt Gray
2018-03-24 17:14   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-03-09 18:43 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] counter: 104-quad-8: Documentation: Add Generic Counter sysfs documentation William Breathitt Gray
2018-03-24 17:21   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-04-02 19:41     ` William Breathitt Gray [this message]
2018-04-06 15:08       ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-03-09 18:43 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] dt-bindings: counter: Document stm32 quadrature encoder William Breathitt Gray
2018-03-24 17:23   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-03-09 18:43 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] counter: stm32-timer-cnt: Add sysfs documentation William Breathitt Gray
2018-03-24 17:27   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-03-09 18:43 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] Counter: Add STM32 Timer quadrature encoder William Breathitt Gray
2018-03-24 17:30   ` Jonathan Cameron

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