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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@intel.com>,
	cunming.liang@intel.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	peterx@redhat.com, zhihong.wang@intel.com, dan.daly@intel.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] vhost-user: introduce F_NEED_ALL_IOTLB protocol feature
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 06:37:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180412063708-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8babe3ef-b401-58ec-b6d4-2b4a7e528560@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 11:23:31AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2018年04月12日 01:00, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 09:41:05PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > On 2018年04月11日 16:38, Tiwei Bie wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 04:01:19PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > On 2018年04月11日 15:20, Tiwei Bie wrote:
> > > > > > This patch introduces VHOST_USER_PROTOCOL_F_NEED_ALL_IOTLB
> > > > > > feature for vhost-user. By default, vhost-user backend needs
> > > > > > to query the IOTLBs from QEMU after meeting unknown IOVAs.
> > > > > > With this protocol feature negotiated, QEMU will provide all
> > > > > > the IOTLBs to vhost-user backend without waiting for the
> > > > > > queries from backend. This is helpful when using a hardware
> > > > > > accelerator which is not able to handle unknown IOVAs at the
> > > > > > vhost-user backend.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Tiwei Bie<tiwei.bie@intel.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > The idea of this patch is to let QEMU push all the IOTLBs
> > > > > > to vhost-user backend without waiting for the queries from
> > > > > > the backend. Because hardware accelerator at the vhost-user
> > > > > > backend may not be able to handle unknown IOVAs.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is just a RFC for now. It seems that, it doesn't work
> > > > > > as expected when guest is using kernel driver (To handle
> > > > > > this case, it seems that some RAM regions' events also need
> > > > > > to be listened). Any comments would be appreciated! Thanks!
> > > > > Interesting, a quick question is why this is needed? Can we just use exist
> > > > > IOTLB update message?
> > > > Yeah, we are still using the existing IOTLB update messages
> > > > to send the IOTLB messages to backend. The only difference
> > > > is that, QEMU won't wait for the queries before sending the
> > > > IOTLB update messages.
> > > Yes, my question is not very clear. I mean why must need a new feature bit?
> > > It looks to me qemu code can work without this.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > Generally we avoid adding new messages without a protocol feature bit.
> > While careful analysis might sometimes prove it's not a strict
> > requirement, it's just overall a clean and robust approach.
> > 
> 
> Right but the looks like the patch does not introduce any new type of
> messages.
> 
> Thanks

In this case remote needs to know that it will send these messages.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-12  3:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-11  7:20 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] vhost-user: introduce F_NEED_ALL_IOTLB protocol feature Tiwei Bie
2018-04-11  8:00 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-11  8:25   ` Tiwei Bie
2018-04-11  8:37     ` Peter Xu
2018-04-11  8:55       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-04-11  9:16         ` Peter Xu
2018-04-11  9:25           ` Tiwei Bie
2018-04-11  8:01 ` Jason Wang
2018-04-11  8:38   ` Tiwei Bie
2018-04-11 13:41     ` Jason Wang
2018-04-11 17:00       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-12  3:23         ` Jason Wang
2018-04-12  3:37           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-04-12  3:56             ` Jason Wang
2018-04-11 17:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-12  1:44       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-04-12  7:38         ` Jason Wang
2018-04-12  8:10           ` Tiwei Bie
2018-04-12  9:40             ` Jason Wang
2018-04-11 13:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-11 13:42   ` Jason Wang
2018-04-12  1:10   ` Tiwei Bie
2018-04-12  1:29     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-12  1:39       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-04-12  1:57         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-12  2:35           ` Tiwei Bie
2018-04-12  3:20             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-12  3:35               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-12  3:43                 ` Jason Wang
2018-04-12  4:19                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-12  3:37           ` Jason Wang
2018-04-12  3:41             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-12  7:24               ` Jason Wang
2018-04-16  7:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-17  2:14   ` Jason Wang
2018-04-17  2:35   ` Tiwei Bie

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