From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>
Cc: jiangshanlai@gmail.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
alex.williamson@redhat.com,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] migration: discard RAMBlocks of type ram_device
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 09:11:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180412081140.GA2704@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b7df24c5-311d-41b1-6304-a52ef8c28732@kaod.org>
* Cédric Le Goater (clg@kaod.org) wrote:
> On 04/11/2018 09:21 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Cédric Le Goater (clg@kaod.org) wrote:
> >> Here is some context for this strange change request.
> >>
> >> On the POWER9 processor, the XIVE interrupt controller can control
> >> interrupt sources using MMIO to trigger events, to EOI or to turn off
> >> the sources. Priority management and interrupt acknowledgment is also
> >> controlled by MMIO in the presenter subengine.
> >>
> >> These MMIO regions are exposed to guests in QEMU with a set of 'ram
> >> device' memory mappings, similarly to VFIO, and the VMAs are populated
> >> dynamically with the appropriate pages using a fault handler.
> >>
> >> But, these regions are an issue for migration. We need to discard the
> >> associated RAMBlocks from the RAM state on the source VM and let the
> >> destination VM rebuild the memory mappings on the new host in the
> >> post_load() operation just before resuming the system.
> >>
> >> This is the goal of the following proposal. Does it make sense ? It
> >> seems to be working enough to migrate a running guest but there might
> >> be a better, more subtle, approach.
> >
> > If this is always true of RAM devices (which I suspect it is).
> >
> > Interestingly, your patch comes less than 2 weeks after Lai Jiangshan's
> > 'add capability to bypass the shared memory'
> > https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2018-03/msg07511.html
>
> I missed that.
>
> > which is the only other case I think we've got of someone trying to
> > avoid transmitting a block.
> >
> > We should try and merge the two sets to make them consistent; you've
> > covered some more cases (the other patch wasn't expected to work with
> > Postcopy anyway).
> > (At this rate then we can expect another 20 for the year....)
> >
> > We should probably have:
> > 1) A bool is_migratable_block(RAMBlock *)
> > 2) A RAMBLOCK_FOREACH_MIGRATABLE(block) macro that is like
> > RAMBLOCK_FOREACH but does the call to is_migratable_block
> >
> > then the changes should be mostly pretty tidy.
>
> yes, indeed, they do.
>
> > A sanity check is probably needed on load as well, to give a neat
> > error if for some reason the source transmits pages to you.
>
> OK.
>
> Would a check on the block migratability at the end of function
> ram_block_from_stream() be enough ? This is called in ram_load()
> and ram_load_postcopy()
Yes I think that's fine. Maybe also add one in ram_load() in
the case RAM_SAVE_FLAG_MEM_SIZE: which happens right at the
start of the migration stream.
> > One other thing I notice is your code changes ram_bytes_total(),
> > where as the other patch avoids it; I think your code is actually
> > more correct.
> >
> > Is there *any* case in existing QEMUs where we migrate ram devices
> > succesfully, if so we've got to make it backwards compatible; but I
> > think you're saying there isn't.
>
> The only RAM devices I know of are the VFIOs.
Great, so we should be OK.
Dave
> Thanks,
>
> C.
>
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-12 8:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-11 17:20 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] migration: discard RAMBlocks of type ram_device Cédric Le Goater
2018-04-11 17:55 ` Alex Williamson
2018-04-11 19:04 ` Kirti Wankhede
2018-04-12 15:59 ` Zhang, Yulei
2018-04-12 16:23 ` Alex Williamson
2018-04-13 6:00 ` Kirti Wankhede
2018-04-11 19:21 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-04-12 7:02 ` Cédric Le Goater
2018-04-12 8:11 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2018-04-12 9:03 ` Peter Maydell
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