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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	virtio@lists.oasis-open.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio] [PATCH 4/5] packed-ring: reposition drivernormative on driver notifications
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 18:59:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180420184651-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29af1c28-c7b0-a461-3c53-9b029512c6d7@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 04:59:12PM +0200, Halil Pasic wrote:
> My concern (regarding the whole spec) is the completeness and self
> the containment of it's normative portion -- I'm not sure if either is
> pursued rigorously.

No it isn't, and the reason is we do not want to bring the development
to a complete halt :). Our charter is

	Enhancing the performance of virtual devices by standardizing key
	features of the VIRTIO (Virtual I/O) Device Specification

Our job is thus to facilitate development by standardizing where it's
helpful.

If we start asking people to write out a formal spec for any tiny
change before they can release code, development will stop and
performance will suffer.

And it's a balance: it should be clear what is going on,
and if people can write it rigorously without confusing
matters, it is helpful.

But we don't want something like e.g. the C or C++ language spec,
where you can read all of it and still have no idea how to use it.

> For instance take 'Supplying Buffers to The
> Device' either for split or for packed. The algorithms described
> there aren't constituting a normative section. Do you think these
> can be inferred from the normative sections?

No but it's ok for normative sections to refer to the non-normative
ones.


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MST

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-20 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-09 18:58 [virtio] [PATCH 0/5] fixes and tweaks for virtio v1.1 Halil Pasic
2018-04-09 18:58 ` [virtio] [PATCH 1/5] packed-ring: fix used descriptors but meant buffers Halil Pasic
2018-04-09 18:58 ` [virtio] [PATCH 2/5] consistency: clean up stale wording for v1.1 terms Halil Pasic
2018-04-10  9:30   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2018-04-10 10:04     ` Halil Pasic
2018-04-10 10:06       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-09 18:58 ` [virtio] [PATCH 3/5] packed-packed: fix supplying buffers description Halil Pasic
2018-04-09 18:58 ` [virtio] [PATCH 4/5] packed-ring: reposition drivernormative on driver notifications Halil Pasic
2018-04-09 19:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-10 10:25     ` Halil Pasic
2018-04-10 11:05       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-10 14:59         ` Halil Pasic
2018-04-20 15:45           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-20 15:59           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-04-20 16:22             ` Halil Pasic
2018-04-20 16:28               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-09 18:58 ` [virtio] [PATCH 5/5] packed-ring: tweak driver code example Halil Pasic
2018-04-20 15:00 ` [virtio] [PATCH 0/5] fixes and tweaks for virtio v1.1 Halil Pasic
2018-04-27 16:07   ` Halil Pasic

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