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From: andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com (Andrea Parri)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 6/9] asm-generic/bitops/atomic.h: Rewrite using atomic_fetch_*
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 00:06:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180524220610.GA7607@andrea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180524130948.f37eltocl5tnittp@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com>

Hi Mark,

> As an aside, If I complete the autogeneration stuff, it'll be possible
> to generate those. I split out the necessary barriers in [1], but I
> still have a lot of other preparatory cleanup to do.

I do grasp the rationale behind that naming:

  __atomic_mb_{before,after}_{acquire,release,fence}()

and yet I remain puzzled by it:

For example, can you imagine (using):

  __atomic_mb_before_acquire() ?

(as your __atomic_mb_after_acquire() is whispering me "acquire-fences"...)

Another example:

  the "atomic" in that "smp_mb__{before,after}_atomic" is so "suggestive"!
   
(think at x86...), but it's not explicit in the proposed names.

I don't have other names to suggest at the moment...  ;/ (aka just saying)

  Andrea


> 
> IIUC, the void-returning atomic ops are relaxed, so trying to unify that
> with the usual rule that no suffix means fence will slow things down
> unless we want to do a treewide substitition to fixup for that.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark.
> 
> [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mark/linux.git/commit/?h=atomics/api-unification&id=c6b9ff2627d06776e427a7f1a7f83caeff3db536

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From: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	yamada.masahiro@socionext.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] asm-generic/bitops/atomic.h: Rewrite using atomic_fetch_*
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 00:06:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180524220610.GA7607@andrea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180524130948.f37eltocl5tnittp@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com>

Hi Mark,

> As an aside, If I complete the autogeneration stuff, it'll be possible
> to generate those. I split out the necessary barriers in [1], but I
> still have a lot of other preparatory cleanup to do.

I do grasp the rationale behind that naming:

  __atomic_mb_{before,after}_{acquire,release,fence}()

and yet I remain puzzled by it:

For example, can you imagine (using):

  __atomic_mb_before_acquire() ?

(as your __atomic_mb_after_acquire() is whispering me "acquire-fences"...)

Another example:

  the "atomic" in that "smp_mb__{before,after}_atomic" is so "suggestive"!
   
(think at x86...), but it's not explicit in the proposed names.

I don't have other names to suggest at the moment...  ;/ (aka just saying)

  Andrea


> 
> IIUC, the void-returning atomic ops are relaxed, so trying to unify that
> with the usual rule that no suffix means fence will slow things down
> unless we want to do a treewide substitition to fixup for that.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark.
> 
> [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mark/linux.git/commit/?h=atomics/api-unification&id=c6b9ff2627d06776e427a7f1a7f83caeff3db536

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-24 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-24 10:59 [PATCH 0/9] Rewrite asm-generic/bitops/{atomic, lock}.h and use on arm64 Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59 ` [PATCH 0/9] Rewrite asm-generic/bitops/{atomic,lock}.h " Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59 ` [PATCH 1/9] h8300: Don't include linux/kernel.h in asm/atomic.h Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59   ` Will Deacon
2018-07-22 13:58   ` Yoshinori Sato
2018-07-22 13:58     ` Yoshinori Sato
2018-05-24 10:59 ` [PATCH 2/9] m68k: Don't use asm-generic/bitops/lock.h Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59   ` Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59 ` [PATCH 3/9] asm-generic: Move some macros from linux/bitops.h to a new bits.h file Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59   ` Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59 ` [PATCH 4/9] openrisc: Don't pull in all of linux/bitops.h in asm/cmpxchg.h Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59   ` Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59 ` [PATCH 5/9] sh: Don't pull in all of linux/bitops.h in asm/cmpxchg-xchg.h Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59   ` Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59 ` [PATCH 6/9] asm-generic/bitops/atomic.h: Rewrite using atomic_fetch_* Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59   ` Will Deacon
2018-05-24 12:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-24 12:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-24 12:47     ` Will Deacon
2018-05-24 12:47       ` Will Deacon
2018-05-24 13:09       ` Mark Rutland
2018-05-24 13:09         ` Mark Rutland
2018-05-24 22:06         ` Andrea Parri [this message]
2018-05-24 22:06           ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-24 22:32           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-24 22:32             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-24 10:59 ` [PATCH 7/9] asm-generic/bitops/lock.h: " Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59   ` Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59 ` [PATCH 8/9] arm64: Replace our atomic/lock bitop implementations with asm-generic Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59   ` Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59 ` [PATCH 9/9] arm64: bitops: Include <asm-generic/bitops/ext2-atomic-setbit.h> Will Deacon
2018-05-24 10:59   ` Will Deacon

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