From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com>,
ldoktor@redhat.com, libvir-list@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
pkrempa@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] [PATCH v6 2/2] vl: fix use of --daemonize with --preconfig
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:17:30 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180613141730.GR7451@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180612125033.GF24690@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 01:50:33PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 02:42:05PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > We can keep daemonizing flow in QEMU as it's now.
> > But Eduardo's idea about libvirt created socked + letting QEMU connect to it
> > has a merit. It should fix current deadlock issue with as monitor
> > won't be depending on lead exit event.
>
> NB, libvirt only ever uses --daemonize when probing capabilities, never
> when launching QEMU for a real VM. In the latter case, we now use FD
> passing, so libvirt opens the UNIX domain socket listener, and passes
> this into QEMU. So libvirt knows it can connect to the listener
> immediately and will only ever get a failure if QEMU has exited.
So, what I'm really missing here is: do we have a good reason to
support --daemonize + --preconfig today?
The options I see are:
1) complete daemonization before preconfig main loop
----------------------------------------------------
By "complete daemonization" I mean doing chdir("/"),
stderr/stdout cleanup, chroot, and UID magic before calling
exit(0) on the main QEMU process.
Pros:
* More intuitive
Cons:
* Can break existing initialization code that don't expect
this to happen.
(can this be fixed?)
* Can break any preconfig-time QMP commands that rely on opening
files
(is it a real problem?)
* Any initialization error conditions that currently rely on
error_report()+exit() will be very inconvenient to handle
properly
(this can be fixed eventually, but it's not trivial)
2) incomplete daemonization before preconfig main loop
------------------------------------------------------
This means calling exit(0) on the main process before doing the
chdir/stderr/etc magic.
Pros:
* Less likely to break initialization code and other QMP commands
Cons:
* Not what's expected from a well-behaved daemon.
(If we're not daemonizing properly, what's the point of using
-daemonize at all?)
* More difficult to change behavior later.
3) daemonize only after leaving preconfig state
-----------------------------------------------
AFAICS, this is the current behavior.
Pros:
* Less likely to break init code
* Keeps existing code as is
Cons:
* Less intuitive
* -daemonize becomes useless as synchronization point for monitor
availability
* Would this be useful for anybody, at all?
* We won't be able to change this behavior later
4) Not supporting -preconfig + -daemonize
-----------------------------------------
Pros:
* Simple to implement.
* Avoids unexpected bugs.
* Saves our time.
* We can change this behavior later.
Cons:
* People might want us to support it eventually.
I believe the only reasonable options are (1) and (4).
--
Eduardo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-13 14:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-05 14:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] fix -nodefaults and -daemonize regressions caused by --preconfig introduction Igor Mammedov
2018-06-05 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/2] cli: Don't run early event loop if no --preconfig was specified Igor Mammedov
2018-06-05 18:12 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-06 7:22 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-11 17:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-05 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] vl: fix use of --daemonize with --preconfig Igor Mammedov
2018-06-05 15:13 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-05 15:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 " Igor Mammedov
2018-06-05 18:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 " Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-06 8:34 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-06 8:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 " Igor Mammedov
2018-06-06 13:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-07 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 " Igor Mammedov
2018-06-08 13:21 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 13:16 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-11 19:06 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 21:29 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-11 22:36 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-12 9:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Michal Privoznik
2018-06-12 12:42 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-12 12:50 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-13 14:17 ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2018-06-13 14:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-13 17:09 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-14 12:32 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-12 13:04 ` Michal Privoznik
2018-06-12 13:10 ` Peter Krempa
2018-06-12 13:17 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-06 8:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] fix -nodefaults and -daemonize regressions caused by --preconfig introduction no-reply
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