From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CEBC43142 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AF924305 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="LQY0CrwC" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org A0AF924305 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753025AbeFVNwZ (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:52:25 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:46922 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751325AbeFVNwX (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:52:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=v+fo7KDGTBf0rg9mX3Qpo2v7hoYSkOCJi6OzfARcnVE=; b=LQY0CrwCvuI8duoD2Nq250aNn AsIM8xr8yTWLiPEZ2akUmZMr4flpQWEimGTWjSMHJncU3+Plpx2Eh5sfYkMGpJ6CCf+vV/kHRE7eX Z6U7eGC9a2lxKAxwW6fJyw7t01ftM3JXHGsnvJQD4/cIrmH8+Yp4avAWxI7bhs/xLifi5wx9ynyXh u61oPOfhnkWw/xMHpNZoisuQvwYOSK2TxgXVU+PUv//0/IkyxB2ZMMv0rt/2f9iqsQxsW/CDJGrAE C+xLzn3mQxcMvA3mUGDqlbiJnc6/JMKKsUzz9Z6ve2d5iRznNjISRJvmlsCiLvirJW+6hKT8lTDU3 Hpjr3u7JA==; Received: from j217100.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.217.100] helo=hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.90_1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1fWMTs-0000U1-CT; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:52:04 +0000 Received: by hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C07B12029F1DB; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:52:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:52:02 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Vincent Guittot Cc: Quentin Perret , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Juri Lelli , Dietmar Eggemann , Morten Rasmussen , viresh kumar , Valentin Schneider , Patrick Bellasi , Joel Fernandes , Daniel Lezcano , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 04/11] cpufreq/schedutil: use rt utilization tracking Message-ID: <20180622135202.GD2512@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <1528459794-13066-1-git-send-email-vincent.guittot@linaro.org> <1528459794-13066-5-git-send-email-vincent.guittot@linaro.org> <20180621184524.GB27616@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20180622075853.GC23168@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <20180622113713.GJ2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20180622132624.GL2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180622132624.GL2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.0 (2018-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 03:26:24PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > But this also means that we will start to inflate the utilization to > > get higher OPP even if there is idle time and lost the interest of > > using dl bw > > You get _some_ inflation, but only if there is actual cfs utilization to > begin with. Note that at high idle time, the inflation really is minimal: f(.2,.2,2) .20312500000000000000