From: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/12] sched/core: uclamp: extend cpu's cgroup controller
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:09:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180727080827.u7tseookdhsckrec@queper01-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180727003919.GA22416@joelaf.mtv.corp.google.com>
On Thursday 26 Jul 2018 at 17:39:19 (-0700), Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 06:29:02AM -0700, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Hello, Patrick.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 06:22:15PM +0100, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > However, the "best effort" bandwidth control we have for CFS and RT
> > > can be further improved if, instead of just looking at time spent on
> > > CPUs, we provide some more hints to the scheduler to know at which
> > > min/max "MIPS" we want to consume the (best effort) time we have been
> > > allocated on a CPU.
> > >
> > > Such a simple extension is still quite useful to satisfy many use-case
> > > we have, mainly on mobile systems, like the ones I've described in the
> > > "Newcomer's Short Abstract (Updated)"
> > > section of the cover letter:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20180716082906.6061-1-patrick.bellasi@arm.com/T/#u
> >
> > So, that's all completely fine but then let's please not give it a
> > name which doesn't quite match what it does. We can just call it
> > e.g. cpufreq range control.
>
> But then what name can one give it if it does more than one thing, like
> task-placement and CPU frequency control?
>
> It doesn't make sense to name it cpufreq IMHO. Its a clamp on the utilization
> of the task which can be used for many purposes.
Indeed, the scheduler could use clamped utilization values in several
places. The capacity-awareness bits (mostly useful for big.LITTLE
platforms) could already use that today I guess.
And on the longer term, depending on where the EAS patches [1] end up,
utilization clamping might actually become very useful to bias task
placement decisions. EAS basically decides where to place tasks based on
their utilization, so util_clamp would make a lot of sense there IMO.
Thanks,
Quentin
[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/7/24/420
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-27 8:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-16 8:28 [PATCH v2 00/12] Add utilization clamping support Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-16 8:28 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] sched/core: uclamp: extend sched_setattr to support utilization clamping Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-17 17:50 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-18 8:42 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-18 17:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-17 18:04 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-16 8:28 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] sched/core: uclamp: map TASK's clamp values into CPU's clamp groups Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-19 23:51 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-20 15:11 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-21 0:25 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-23 13:36 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-16 8:28 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] sched/core: uclamp: add CPU's clamp groups accounting Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-20 20:25 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-16 8:28 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] sched/core: uclamp: update CPU's refcount on clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-16 8:28 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: add utilization clamping for FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-16 8:29 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: add utilization clamping for RT tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-16 8:29 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] sched/core: uclamp: enforce last task UCLAMP_MAX Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-21 1:23 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-23 15:02 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-23 16:40 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-16 8:29 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] sched/core: uclamp: extend cpu's cgroup controller Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-21 2:37 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-21 3:16 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-23 15:17 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-23 15:30 ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-23 17:22 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-24 13:29 ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 15:39 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-24 15:39 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-27 0:39 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-27 8:09 ` Quentin Perret [this message]
2018-07-16 8:29 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] sched/core: uclamp: map TG's clamp values into CPU's clamp groups Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-16 8:29 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] sched/core: uclamp: use TG's clamps to restrict Task's clamps Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-22 3:05 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-23 15:40 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-23 17:11 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-24 9:56 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-24 15:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-24 15:49 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-26 22:11 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-16 8:29 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] sched/core: uclamp: update CPU's refcount on TG's clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-22 3:17 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-16 8:29 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] sched/core: uclamp: use percentage clamp values Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-22 4:04 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-24 16:43 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-24 17:11 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-07-24 17:17 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-07-17 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] Add utilization clamping support Joel Fernandes
2018-07-17 13:41 ` Patrick Bellasi
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