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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 20:04:28 -0400
From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing: do not leak kernel addresses
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On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 03:05:43PM -0700, Sandeep Patil wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 04:21:14PM -0400, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 04:11:03PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > That said, I would assume that
> > > other Android utilities are using other debugfs files for system
> > > status and such.
> 
> As of today, I think a lot of information in 'bugreports' is read
> out of debugfs (including things like binder stats). We do have a plan
> to change that.

Hmm, if it's only for bugreports, maybe it can be only mounted when
about root processes getting tricked into reading from debugfs.


> Indeed, I think it can. However, the problem is the last time I tried to
> remove this a whole bunch of things just broke. So, it wasn't about losing
> a functionality here and there. Agree, we need to clean up platform to not use
> debugfs first. Then we can expect Apps or other native processes to not rely
> on debugfs at all.

Is Android controlling access to debugfs files via SELinux?  If so,
then access to debugfs can be gradually cranked down as use cases are
removed.

						- Ted